If that lucky penalty happened on the first drive of the game it would be forgotten and the headlines would be how the jets defense shut down Tampa. All about timing of a play.
That is no excuse -- they failed to execute, committed stupid penalties, but they also had no luck running, allowed freeman to get pressure all day, and failed to make any big plays. Sometimes good defense can make an offense look very very bad.
A win is a win, honestly who cares. Gino won the game for us after almost losing it, props to him for keeping his poise. Again I say who cares?
I don’t think we could have pulled it out with only 7 seconds. However we should have had about 20 seconds left if the clock management wasn’t so bad when we took our timeouts on defense. Basically the penalty saved us from losing to poor clock management
Pretty much sums it up. The most disappointing thing to me was that although the D played pretty well overall, when push came to shove, they got shoved again.
You do realize you're in a discussion forum, yes? This place is fueled by discourse, debate, enmity, hostility, rancor, resentment, and hate. Join in on the fun! At the very least, spell your starting quarterback's name correctly.
It would have been extremely unlikely but assuming they covered the sidelines and the hail mary the Bucs were holding, head hunting and generally doing stupid shit on defense all day ... just like they did on that play. Who's to say Goldson wouldn't have gone for the hat trick?
Does it matter? We won. You can make the same hypotheticals about a lot of close games so far in the NFL. The point is, we executed when it counted, and they did not. That being said, Rex's poor clock management helped more than it hurt. We didn't cover the last squib kick well at all.
I personally don't agree with the conventional wisdom to squib it there. IMO while both scenarios are unlikely, I bet there's a better chance of something weird happening on a chaotic return play, than Tampa converting on an 80 yard Hail Mary vs a prevent defense with DB's lining up the endzone.
I don't think people are giving Tampa Bay enough credit. Yes, they played sloppy ball, but that team we played was pretty damned good. Great lines on both sides of the ball, a very formidible run defense, a QB who is quite servicable, a good running attack and a couple of WRs and TEs that are pretty damned good. Their DBs are fucking loose cannons and clowns and Schiano needs to kcik them all in the ass. We had Home Field advantage and yes, a good amount of luck at the end. But you have to take games like that, just as you have to swallow the games you know you "should have won."
Yeah, with the exception of Freeman, who is basically a mocha colored Sanchez, that team is as good as any in the entire league, almost position for position. Even if we lost, it would have said something that we hung in there until the last second on a rookie QB's first NFL game. The fact that we won makes it even sweeter. I still don't think we have the offense to be a playoff team this year (weapons moreso than the QB) this team is nothing close to being a doormat. Remember when SF came in here with Alex Smith still starting and kicked the shit out of us? I dont think that SF led by Smith is that much different than the Bucs led by Freeman.
I have a hard time comparing Sanchez to any other starter in this league. It's really difficult to find a comp when you think about it. Even Freeman last night... I mean, given a choice at the start of the game, if someone said to you, "Who'd you like to start, Josh Freemen or Mark Sanchez?" I know what my answer would be. Five years and no improvement... arrested development even. I think you're beng awfully unkind to Josh Freeman. He doesn't deserve to be compared to Mark Sanchez... no one does. (LOL)
Anyone who isn't a homer knows yesterday was a gift. For all the praise being dished out TB played an amazingly sloopy, undisciplined game. That along with Freeman who clearly isn't the QB they thought they had. I think any afce QB would have put up 24+ yesterday. That said you take the W anyway you can in the NFL.
No question about it. What you saw was a fairly good team giving the game away because of sloppiness and ass-clown penalties... really blatant ones at that. So in a way, it was a good game for Geno to be starting in (against a team that was hell-bent on giving the game away). Really good practice for him though, because I still think that Tampa Bay is a pretty good overall team who happened to have zero discipline while making boneheaded mistakes last night. Schiano is going to torch these guys all week over this shit. The final straw was the Geno hit OOB, but the rest of their game was plagued with the same stupid, immature bullshit. If I was Schiano I'd be so pissed my head would explode. So, I don't think you're going to see another Tampa Bay game like that again this year. We just happened to luck into it. And the liuck carried through to that last totally unnecessary lick OOB on Geno that finally gave the game away for them.
I believe without the penalty we would have been looking at a 63 yard FG attempt if we couldnt move the ball any closer with the 7 seconds we would have had remaining. It's possible we could have ran a quick play, got out of bounce, and had time left to kick the FG. People have also kicked 63 yard FG's before so it's possible that Folk could have nailed it from there (not sure what the wind was like at MetLife though). The penalty helped us out immensely but it's not crazy to think we could have won without it. Although obviously are chances of winning would have been slimmer.
You have to define what you are calling crazy and could have. The odds of hitting a 63 yard FG are probably about 100-1, or more
We wouldn't have won without the safety either, but nobody talks about that, because it was in the first quarter. How about Tampa? We basically handed them a touchdown when Geno fumbled at the 5. Given how ineffective their offense is, It's doubtful that they were getting a second TD without that gift of field position. My point is that teams make mistakes in every game, and you need to capitalize on them to win. No matter what point in the game they occur. Just because Tampa's biggest mistake came with 7 seconds left and not 20 minutes left doesn't mean that we didn't earn the victory. And besides a 48 yarder isn't a chipshot anyway. Folk gets props for making that kick
