Funny thing is, they were just talking about this against New Orleans. Showing the defense rankings of New Orleans before and now with Ryan. From terrible to great. I guess Sean Payton was not coaching the same team we all thought he was when they had a terrible defense
Sick of hearing about RR knowing only defense when it's clear as fuckin day that every HC in this league specializes in one aspect and gets help from their staff in the other areas. Like holy fuckin Christ, give it up. What the fuck does Marvin Lewis do for his offense? That's Jay Gruden's baby. Pagano in Indy? Pep Hamilton's offense. Kubiak in Houston? Wade Phillips runs the D. Jason Garret doesn't do shit for his defense in Dallas.
Lmao I feel you man. That's the pathetic excuse these people have to justify their insane assumptions. They are the kind of fans that nothing can make them happy and you don't want around.
If you don't like RR that's fine and there are things to not like about his style, but saying he "only knows defense" as if every other HC is a guru in both sides is flat out wrong and not a valid reason to not like Rex as a HC. I'd love to hear what Super Bowl-winner Mike McCarthy does for his defense and how he is a mastermind in both sides of the ball. Still waiting for an answer.
I agree with that assessment. Plus going 8-8 or better means that Rex would have had only one losing season in five years, that's nothing to sneeze at. Especially with below-average QB play almost constantly throughout. The talent isn't there yet, but I like the coaching mix. Rex v2.0 seems to be working, the affable personality without the unneccesary braggadocio....and finally they have an o-coordinator that can run a competent NFL offense that Rex can just give autonomy to and concentrate on the defense.
I've been saying for years that letting Rex go would be up there with the worst decisions I've seen in sports
Agree 100%. I can't understand why that same tireless argument keeps coming up. People just LOVE to HATE, and spread myths about Rex Ryan. It's a fucked up mentality for a fan to have, but it is what it is. They hold their own coaches and players to absurd standards while the rest of the league gets a pass. Practically every team in the NFL has a head coach that specializes on one side of the ball because most were former coordinators. Sean Payton is the perfect example. Durrr, why is he calling plays, he's a head coach? It's because he's a BOSS when it comes to calling the O, much like Rex on D. If you don't coach and utilize your staff to your strengths and weaknesses, why even bother coaching football? Same shit, different sewer. Fans love double standards for some reason.
The rest of the league is a mediocre pile of mush. It would be nice to see a truly dominating Jets team. Came close in 98 and in 08 and 09 to having one. The problem is we have a coach in our division who is competent in running all phases of his team and that's the standard for us to get over the hump. That's not a knock on Rex but if you don't think the HC has to have an organizational vision of what his team should look like on both sides of the ball I think you're way off base. I like the fact that Rex got MM to play Rex Ryan football last week. He needs to put his stamp on both sides of the ball.
I don't think it is a double standard, it is simply sheer ignorance of what head coaches do. coordinators and position coaches become head coaching candidates because of proven excellence leading a specific unit that owners and GM's then believe would translate to the organization and leading of the entire team. that expectation of an ability to organize and lead doesn't become an expectation of being an expert in any other position that they have not shown expertise in; simply an ability to organize and lead those other units.
having an organizational vision is not the same as the ignorant fan expectation of being an expert in positions you have never coached.
You're making assumptions. Fact of the matter is no one truly knows how much or what Belichick does for that offense. I know he doesn't call the plays. I also know he is working with a HOF Quarterback that has had an excellent supporting cast in years past. Until you can show me proof of what he does for the offense I'm going to assume he operates like most other HCs, and gets a great deal of help from his staff. Belichick just keeps winning so people assume he's some kind of super-genius in all phases. No, he's a defensive guru who's working with a HOF QB. We have one that's working with a dogshit offense. Therein lies the difference. And so we're clear, a defensive guru must know a thing or two about offense in order to stop it. Let's establish that every coach in this league knows X's and O's on both sides of the ball. They merely specialize in one.
I'm still waiting to hear from the RR detractors exactly what Sean Payton does for his defense, Mike McCarthy his defense, Tony Dungy for his offense, Bill Cowher for his offense, and Jon Gruden for his defense. Those are all Super Bowl winning HCs.
Been asking this same question to people for about 2 years now. I doubt you get an answer. 1. They don't know how a HC actually becomes one 2. They can't come up with a viable replacement for Rex Ryan I've been waiting on these answers for a while now.
Rex takes Jets to SB at MetLife....wins a thriller. Idzik meets him at the bus and offers him a 5 yr, $60M contract extension. Rex declines the offer, becomes a FA. hahahaha
I myself thought Rex was done but so far he's earned the right to stay. I'm happily surprised. One lingering issue is his lack of offensive expertise. It leaves him at the mercy of whoever the OC is. Mornhingweg is only under a 1-year deal. What will happen next year then? And let's see if he improves his clock management
Again with this. Show me one HC that doesn't need help from their staff. What did Tony Dungy do for the offense in Indy? Or was that Tom Moore/Peyton Manning?
I could of sworn a lot of you were calling for his head after the Sanchez injury. Bipolar fanbase/media is pretty comical. If we lose the next two games let the fire Rex threads start again.
Part of a Head Coach's job is to hire a coaching staff, and Rex retained Schotty and hired Sparano, so in that aspect of his job he failed until he hired Marty. Let me preface this by saying I like Rex and feel he should be retained, but some of his decisions in hiring coaches or some player evaluations should be questioned.
