Some-1 PLEASE tell me why Bills r favr'd by 1.5 over Jets?

As did pennington and favre, under the same OC.

This has always been about the OC,.

And i've said, with his release, Smith will be the better player, in 2 more years.

Simple question, you really think we lose week 2?

 

Nope. Teams off byes almost never lose, to divisional opponents,

I enjoy the debating, so, accept my apologies, for letting the "restrictions" on free speech, on a discussion board play out,

You're one of my favorite posters.

 

I don't know. My feeling is that Kerley was the key absentee in that one.

 

In Rex's 4 previous seasons the Jets have lost the week after the Bye 3 times. The one win, against Division rival Buffalo in Buffalo. Hobbes is right on the money with this one.

 

Sounds like a made-up-on-the-spot Hobbes special to me. Care to provide a link for that?

 

Hobbes, go invaginate yourself.


I did do a short history namely because I've notice this trend in several of your recent posts:

1. "I told you so" and the

2. "if only we had Mark" lamenting.

It wasn't a personal attack (we differ in that regard) it was an observation. You like to GIVE it personally, fine, just don't TAKE it personally.

Oh, and your smarmy "St. Geno" wording kinda underscores it.

Spot on with the damned if they do, damed if they don't observation Br4dw4y5ux. In addition, what I meant by 'props' press was the Steve Serby-type fairweather tripe as well as the suddenly benign ESPN/NFLN pundits, many of whom were the same people who exaggerated any Jet 'issues' and/or shortcomings while generally mocking the overall Jet brand.

 

the Bills at least have good fans

we, sadly, have jerseyjay14

 

I don't know why some of you actually care about the lines unless you have money on the game. They are down their top 2 wideouts while were getting much healthier, if we stop the run which is almost guaranteed I don't see any way EJ can beat us with his arm.

 

I hate it when people do this. You could just as easily say that the Jets "should be" 3-6 with how the Bucs and Patriots games ended. Those two inexplicable penalties don't happen, and the Jets ARE 3-6. If you said that, you would not be wrong. The Bills should have won a few more games too (maybe even 4), including a game where they completely outplayed the only undefeated team in the league but still lost the game. If you wanted to, you could say that the Bills "should be" 6-4, at least. But they aren't. The tables could be flipped, with the Bills being 6-4 and the Jets being 3-6, but that's not the way it is. The Bills played two different undrafted QBs with little-to-no experience in 4-and-a-half of their games, too.

Like I said in the other thread, don't look at the last game to see what will happen in this game. We all know the Bills are at home this time, and that means a lot. But last time, the Bills entire secondary was out. The only healthy guy in the secondary was a Safety, and he was moved to Cornerback. The Bills #4 CB on the depth chart was their #1 CB that day, and he was murdered for 254 yards, 2 TDs and a pass interference call. The guy got killed. The Bills secondary is back healthy, and Geno won't have Justin Rogers to pick on this time. At the same time, he'll have Santonio Holmes and Kellen Winslow back, which should help out.

The new problem is the Bills WRs this time. Their two best WRs (by far) are out. The Bills are going into the game with only 4 receivers (Goodwin, Graham, Hogan, and Easley). Three of these guys never caught an NFL pass before this year. Right now, those same three guys have 16 catches between them this year, and in effect, over their entire careers combined. The other guy (Graham) is a second-year play that hasn't been very good. 2 or 3 of these WRs were drafted mainly for their ability to stretch the field; the problem is that EJ Manuel hasn't generally been able to do that, or at least willing to try too much for whatever reason. Stevie Johnson and Robert Woods are known for their great route-running abilities...and they're out.

The Bills will have to get more creative and involve their Tight Ends and Running Backs in the passing game more, probably. And they'll try to establish the run, which would be no mean feat against the Jets #1 run defense in the league. The Bills have two very good running backs.

But the weather will play in, with rain likely and gusts of wind up to 40 mph. It might be hard to throw deep anyway. In my opinion, this will be a defensive battle more than anything else. Talk about the point spread, but the over/under for this game is the lowest in the league this week. Run the ball, protect the ball, and play defense and field position. I envision that basic outlook for both teams going into this game. Whoever can do those three things better should win. Of course, anything can happen. One of the QBs might have a big day, and if he does, that team is likely to win, all things being equal. Hell, they BOTH could have big days, but I seriously doubt that.

The line is at Jets -1 now generally, but it took a long time for it to move there. The spread was always geared toward having the public wager on the Jets, which is exactly what the majority of bettors have been doing. I think that was obviously Vegas' slant on creating this line. Whoever wins this game was always more than likely to cover the spread, too. If you think their strategy is wrong, then bet on the Jets. I think that the Jets and the Bills aren't as far apart as the general public perception indicates.

 

Take the Jets getting 1.5 and be happy lol

 

I don't know where you see the line as Jets +1.5.. It opened at that earlier in the week and I jumped all over the ML. As of right now, I can get the Jets at -1 with a juice of -120. Basically a difference in 2.5 points as the week went on.

 

Ya, Vegas hates the jets so much they don't care if they lose money.

 

The posts in this thread somes up TGG.

 

This about "somes" things up for me

 

correct, they haven't been favored for several days now. Buffalo opened as a slight favorite, now the Jets are a slight favorite.

Line history (ML, or which team wins) from the book that the others follow:

405 NY Jets @ 406 Buffalo
11/17/13 01:00pm
Time
NY Jets
Buffalo
11/15/13 09:40:34pm
-113
+102
11/15/13 08:03:26pm
-109
-101
11/15/13 05:48:42pm
-113
+102
11/15/13 02:30:39pm
-109
-101
11/15/13 02:30:09pm
-106
-104
11/15/13 01:08:45pm
-101
-109
11/15/13 11:51:12am
+100
-110
11/15/13 11:48:30am
+103
-114
11/15/13 11:08:39am
-101
-109
11/15/13 07:50:17am
+102
-113
11/14/13 08:14:29pm
+105
-116
11/14/13 02:01:25pm
+102
-113
11/13/13 04:54:06pm
+105
-116
11/12/13 07:24:07am
+108
-119

 

We would have lost every game til now had the one who shall not be named been at QB for us. No doubt about that.

 

The media, fans, even TGG is all over the map on predicting the Jets because we DON'T have a superstar QB or WR. When analyzing the Jets you have to look further than how just one or two superstars are playing lately.

With the 2013 offense seeming un-improved in the off season and with 7 new starters on defense, it was easy (lazy?) to point the Jets' arrow downward.

To this very day if you want to know how the Jets are doing or how they're going to do, you have to look at 15-20 different players who all make small contributions.

David Nelson? Who the hells that? Can he continue to impress, especially against his former team?

Chris Ivory? Powell? Who's getting the reps this week? Will MM even call a running game plan?

Rookie QB Geno? What's the game plan going to be this week and how does it mesh with his development?

Milliner? Antonio Allen? Are they both healthy and can they both have two good games in a row?

How has Cromartie's hip responded to the week off?

Where and how will Rex deploy Ed Reed?

All these and many more questions are important when trying to figure out the Jets, and frankly, most ppl, even fans, don't bother.

They (media in particular) just looks at our next opponent (Bills) and see a possible win, or the all mighty Ravens and pencil in an 'L'.

 

Hopefully the results of tomorrow's game doesn't have a Bills fans coming in here saying that's why they were favored.

 

Jets are actually favored now by 2. Just placed my parlay bet a few minutes ago.