View of the 2013 Jets - Not pretty

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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  2. CaneJet

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    After doing a lot of reading recently about the Jets' coaches, I'm back to thinking Ryan needs to go. The evidence is that the environment is toxic and detrimental to the success of the offensive side. This season is threatening the career of the OC for the third year in a row. Three very different guys performing with a common ineptitude. It's starting from the top.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The OC is excellent and Rex has done a spectacular job keeping this team in the race. if we get a decent QB next year we'll contend. If our QB didn't get hurt this year we'd have contended this year(or if Geno starts playing better we can still make a playoff run)
     
  4. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    You realize we'd be about 2-9 right now with your average NFL coach dealing with a completely dysfunctional offense, right?
     
  5. gustoonarmy

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    This.


    Rex 'ruined' Tebow's career??? FFS :rofl:
     
  6. mezzavo

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    Let's call Brass Tacks what they are. I think with the addition of Marty we have a top flight coaching staff. The Special Teams is still a work in progress...but you can't be perfect across the board. Let's face it...Smith was always going to be a shot in the dark. There is a "reason" he dropped into the 2nd round. Be realistic...We weren't even the most QB needy team in the draft last year and those teams passed.

    Essentially Idzik took a "flyer" on this kid. Not a whole lot invested but time. Unfortunately, that doesn't help the veterans and flushes a year of NFL experience but it is what it is. Guys like Mangold and Brick are essentially beginning down the "other side" of their careers at this point. It's a shame, too, because Center is one of the hardest positions to draft successfully. We really wasted a whole lot of O-Line talent the last half a decade or so. But...again...it is what it is.

    My only beef with the CS is the lack of "stones" to do what needs to be done with Smith until it's too late for the rest of the team...but, yet again, it is what it is...

    There's not another coach out there that I would rather have than Rex right now.

    Cowher & Gruden...neither would touch this team with a 10 foot pole at this point. I think both are very comfortable where there are. No expectations for them and they both have a life long career. Who else is out there?
     
  7. OverloadBlitz

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    Really nobody, and I'm not a fan of Cowher, I guess you could take a look at a Kevin Sumlin from the College ranks. The only coach I wouldn't mind coming here at all is Gruden and we know there's no fucking way in hell he's coming here.
     
  8. Jersey Joe 67

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    You don't need a great QB to win championships, you need a smart QB.
     
  9. mezzavo

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    No shit...Gruden would cut off his own balls before coming to this shit storm of a mess. LOL!!!!

    Maybe we can lure Fassel from retirement. he he he he he he :rofl:

    Joe is right...at this point we would be happy with SMART QB play. :wink:
     
  10. CaneJet

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    Unless the dysfunctional offense was caused by our non-average NFL head coach's inability to lead to begin with.

    Rex is a defensive genius and terrific motivational speaker. What he lacks is the balls to put people in their place when necessary. He's got to be everybody's pal. So if the two sides of the ball develop an adversarial relationship, the guy who's supposed to shake them up and get them on the same page doesn't do it. Sometimes you have to be an asshole and a bastard if you want to win. Rex can't stand to be that. He picked Scotty McKnight behind the other coaches' backs in the 2011, specifically to placate Sanchez. That is plain old fucked.

    Nobody wants to be wrong more than me, rest assured of that. But the way things are going just doesn't portend well. The recent quote "defense did it's job" from Mo says it all.
     
  11. JetsNation06

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    Not only does Idzik get a pass for the 2013 draft, he also gets a nod for it too. Any time you can draft a future all pro like Richardson that outweighs any bad in the draft. If Idzik drafts one all pro in each draft over the next 5 years then you've got the nucleus of a top NFL franchise.
     
  12. Jets69

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    When does it ever look good for the Jets, every season I've grown to expect failure, hopefully Idzik can put some solid pieces together in the offseason, however I have my doubts about him.
     
  13. CaneJet

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    So am I the first to criticize Rex for not being enough of an asshole?
     
  14. JustaJetFan

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    Finally, someone being rational. It's rare for rookies to immediately be a difference maker on the field, and Idzik's drafted someone who not only did that, but took the Jets run D from mediocre to elite.
     
  15. Harpua

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    This is a valid point, but there is another that is being overlooked all too often thanks to our early season success.

    This was supposed to be a rebuilding year. It was a year as much about fixing a disasterous cap problem as it was fixing a talent problem. The Cap plan is still in place. We will be in very good shape next year if we remove a few more big time $$ but underproforming contracts.

    If people want to run out an kill the front office for not bringing in a limited talent like Alex Smith or signing a mid teir QB, go right ahead. What we doing between this seasons end and the start of next season will be more telling on how they will deal with the QB situation.
     
  16. JetsNation06

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    No doubt about it. He's handled the cap well and if he keeps clearing space and makes some good FA moves then even better.
     
  17. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Jets have done a really good job so far of cleaning off the mess on the table from the last window. They've taken the expensive aging chaff and mostly cleared it off the roster.

    Now they need to set the table for the next window. That means figuring out if Geno is just part of the depth chart, which is a real possibility at this point. It means overloading on passing targets next year. It means sorting out the offensive line and knowing what they're doing there moving forward.

    As much as people will hate to hear it after the defensive drafts of the last 4 years the Jets still need a play making safety to build around and they still need an OLB. That has to be part of the plan also.
     
  18. Fightin'JetTitan

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    Not done.
    ...you forgot to mention Elway, Griese, Kelly (tho' he never won a SB, he was the ONLY QB in NFL history to lead his team to 4, straight SB's), Bradshaw & Dawson (he threw for over 20 TD's in his 1st, 6 seasons w. the Chiefs). "Honorable Mention" must be given to Dan Fouts also...... (I would also give "H.M." to the "Mad Bomber" Lamonica, but his completion pctg was below avg but he was thrill to watch as he never saw a 30++yd pass he didn't like!:grin:)
     
  19. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I was just listing AFC East and pointing out that each team has had one truly great QB in their existence. I put Griese in also because he was a great game manager.
     
  20. Fightin'JetTitan

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    I hear ya' bro!:up:
     

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