Nick has been a great player for the Jets since his arrival but this year he has been absolutely horrible. I know some of that for him has been attributed to trying to cover for Winters at LG, but that isn't always the case on every play. Mangold supposedly has a wrist injury (don't know how severe) that is likely limiting his play as well but I have seen him get beat more now at the point of attack than in years past. I thought Winters played horrible yesterday and I really haven't see much improvement from him over the course of the year. Do the Jets consider having Winters compete at the RG spot next year, move Mangold to LG and slide Dalton Freeman in at center? The Jets were high on Freeman during preseason before his injury and from what I saw he played well.
It's hard to believe that Mangold is struggling. We are accustomed to him anchoring down our line, unfortunately age catches up to everyone. I doubt he gets moved to any G spot next season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Mangold has been dealing with a myriad of injures and lack of talent next to him. That will "age" you quick. I think a solid health building offseason and an addition or maturation at guard and we'll see him back. Mangold will be fine and definitely does NOT need to be moved.
How about moving D'Brick to LG and Winters to RG? The Jets would have to draft or acquire a LT to make that happen but it might be the way to go. D'Brick is getting to the point where his quickness and agility are in decline. He's still got overkill for LG though and you do not need to be a road grader there like you do at RG. The Jets and D'Brick would have to reach an accommodation on his contract to make that work. He's very overpaid at this point for what he produces at LT.
Brick would be a terrible OG imo. He doesn't have the size or strength or run-blocking ability to play OG. The ONLY OL position he was suited for was LT, and that because of his speed and quickness of foot. He's evidently lost or is quickly losing that. His only position soon will be the bench.
Mangold is a better athelete than Mawae, who was one of the best centers in football for 15+ years. Like Mezzavo said, when the other positions get better, he will as well. I expect a rebound year next year from Mangold AND DBrick with Winters being a sophomore and the line gelling as a whole.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think you're going to be very disappointed next year. Mangold may rebound some, and Winters may improve, but I don't see much of any chance of Brick improving. I think he's getting close to done.
Logan Mankins is 6'4" 308 lbs. Jahri Evans is 6'4" 316 lbs. Marshall Yanda is 6'4" 307 lbs. Seriously, not all LG's are road graders. D'Brick's long arms would keep most defensive tackles from getting good leverage on him. He'd dominate blitzing ILB's.
The Center posistion is so important.Weve seen what happens when Mangold gets injured and a rookie comes in to replace him,Bad snaps,poor communication,bad timing, theres no chance Mangold gets moved anywhere until we draft a new center.Mangolds got 3 good years left in him
LMAO @ this thread; Mangold is the very least of our worries. I guess fans expect to have someone playing @ an All-pro level @ every position every year.
Lol @ Brick being done. Your only as good as the person next to you at times. Between brick and Mangold trying to keep Smith upright from Winters mistakes, their play will drop. Notice how Colon and Howard aren't being talked about much? Because they have been doing a decent enough job with their one on one assignments and other responsibilities and not asked to cover a rookies ass continuously.
this draft I want to see The New York Jets select OL (insert name) The New York Jets select WR (insert name) Until I pass out.
I know that, but he isn't even average as a run blocker, much less a road grader. I agree that he would be (or at least should be) effective in pass protection as an OG, but imo he just doesn't block well enough in the rushing attack. If anything, if you don't want your RT to be a road grader in the run game (personally, I do), the Jets might be able to move him to RT, keep Howard as the backup and then draft a new LT.
Is this Madden 25 or something? I'm no offensive line expert, but there's differences between these positions, however subtle they may be. Sure, Brick and Mangold have struggled this season. That doesn't mean you take them out of the positions where they've been pro-bowlers, especially when there's not much depth to speak of.
D'Brick has been more of a problem then Mangold. Brick has struggled, Winters has been crap (Is a rook) Colon has been solid Mangold has been solid, he hasn't been bad as people might think Howard has been good, probably our best o-linemen this season.
When your QB takes 9-13 step drops, it can make your tackles who are pushing edge rushers beyond the pocket look bad.
