Very Good Read

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Dude, I am not a lawyer, I'm a NASA astronaut. I just didn't want to brag about it and make folks here feel inferior so I picked the most reprehensible profession to fake.

    Btw, if you think what I did was to contradict myself then you weren't reading. I mean, even a lowly lawyer could see that.

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  2. Mr. Green Pants

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    I'm not even sure what your actual argument is.
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    The Jets had not decided that Sanchez won the QB competition. Sanchez fans like to claim he did.
     
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  4. Barcs

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    Do you always argue in fallacies?
     
  5. JStokes

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    He is confused and I don't mean that in a derogatory way mind you. We had this discussion a few weeks ago when he was under a different non de plume and he left that discussion figuratively shaking his head saying "I'll have to get back to you on that."

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  6. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I try not to reason with people whom I feel are incapable of it although sometimes I just can't help myself.
     
  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Don't mistake your inability to observe the logical contradiction in your own argument with me being confused. I am confused enough on my own ... can't afford to take your confusion on my shoulders.
     
  8. Mr. Green Pants

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    Ahh.

    I think the door was open enough that Geno could have claimed the job with a strong first half performance in that game, but he didn't do it. At the point when Rex put Sanchez in, he knew Mark was going to be the starter in the opener. Rex took a risk by putting Sanchez in to win the game, and the move bit him in the ass. Looking back on it all, he was very fortunate that Geno turned out to be a serviceable starter.
     
  9. JStokes

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    As a man who lives by contradiction and logical analysis, I can assure that there was absolutely no contradiction in anything I've said on this matter.

    I can explain it to you.

    I just can't understand it for you too.

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  10. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I'll ask you the same thing I asked stokes. if rex was willing to risk his starting qb because he so badly wanted to win a preseason game then why wouldn't he put all the starters in? it's a contradiction to discount the legitimacy of one without doing the same to the other, mind you.
     
  11. Mr. Green Pants

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    I already explained that.

    http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/very-good-read.80541/page-5#post-2970243
     
  12. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    It's important to believe what you say. I think we'll just agree to disagree on this one.
     
  13. JStokes

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    Go back an read my honest and well thought out response in this thread as well as the other thread a few weeks back.

    BTW, have you gone back like you said you would and looked at the tape of that presesaon game to see if the lineman had literally taken their pads off or just figuratively?

    And how do you not understand the dfference between putting an entire starting unit BACK into the game that is already done for them as opposed to telling ONE guy to put his helmet on and get in there and win one for the Gipper? And how do you not understand that Rex is partially insance?

    Oooof.

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  14. JStokes

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    So Jets fire Tannenbaum for messing shit up. This includes Sanchez. Time to move on.
     
  16. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I have not gone back and looked. I thought you admitted it was a figure of speech, but maybe I'm misremembering.

    I don't know how you can discount the legitimacy of putting someone back in the game while in the same breath saying it's legit to put your starting QB in.

    If your argument is that Rex is just insane, then OK it makes more sense, we just disagree.
     
  17. JStokes

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    It's not just one guy--it's an entire UNIT. 5 guys gassed, done with what they were told they were going to do for the night. "Hey fellas, last series here and then you're done" kind of thing. You don't put those guys back in.

    You don't see the massive difference between that and telling a QB who has not yet played to grab his helmet and go on out there?

    And yes, you are misrememebring. You thought there was a difference between literally and figuratively, but there isn't. You were going to check anyway.

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  18. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Dude. They're NFL players, they're used to playing 4 quarters. Your argument is they were gassed? C'mon, you can do better.

    I will try and go back this weekend - not sure I even have it on DVR anymore, but I'll make an effort IF you tell me you know for sure the pads were off.

    If your argument is that Rex NEEDED TO WIN I don't see the massive difference at all. I see no difference. Either he NEEDED to win and lost his mind or he didn't NEED to win. You can't have it both ways.
     
  19. JStokes

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    Are you serious? We're talking about a preseason game, right? I'm not saying they we're LITERALLY gassed, they already had on their party suits (not literally) and were thinking about where they were going out that night.

    It was an inconsequentional game for every single one of those lineman. They were done. Never to go back in. DONE.

    Not so for Rex.

    Geebuz.

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    Nonsense, he wanted him hurt because Idzik or Woody or somebody was going to force him to use Smith as starter all season against his will and this way he would have an excuse for doing that.
     
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