I'm the most excited about this unit. From the draft picks to the UDFA's, I see from the players highlights an increase in the DB talent pool. I feel Jets may have a few diamonds in the rough here....if players pan out & barring injuries. It's still very early & we have to see who Jets sign post-rookie mini-camp. But I'm very excited about Secondary play. Now...of course adding an improved pass-rush always make players look better. I really wanna see how Ademola Olatunji CB Howard looks. I hope he's a real player. His game tape is quite impressive. He also has great size.
I figure it will be Millner, Landry, Pryor and X. Competition for 2nd corner. Hopefully Rex gives everyone a fair shot. I respect Rex's loyalty for veterans, but Jets are a young growing team. Really hope this competition mantra is not bullshit ! Ed Reed is done. From what I saw last year.... he is average at best. Ed was slower and took bad angles defending the deep ball. ( Was really surprised because he was so good at this in his career ) I don't want him occupying a roster spot. The cuts will be tough enough. ( tons of hungry players for spots )
On this one I have to say I don't think so. One of those guys can stay with his man AND look back for the ball before it arrives and the other one hasn't displayed that ability to date. If McDougle is healthy there's no way Wilson beats him out. Other people might but not Wilson.
I think Reed has a bit of gas in the tank, he did look slower but the guy joined the team in week 10, had no previous history playing with any players on the team, hence no chemistry, and still was able to rack up 3 picks, 4 PDs and 22 tackles. That's not totally done to me. I don't think he'll be back with the Jets, but they may surprise me and bring him in late in the offseason. There's just something weird about what happened with him and that robbery thing that makes me thing teams are going to shy away from him, Jets included.
What in Rex's history as the Jets' HC give you such confidence that he would play rookie ahead of a vet? You think McDougle is the first CB we brought in since Kyle Wilson has been here that can turn to look for the ball? Lacking this ability has not kept Wilson off the field why would it now?
Wilson hasn't played outside much. I doubt he's going to get a serious look out there this year. If he was going to get real snaps outside last year would have been the year. We had two starters getting torched repeatedly for most of the season. If Wilson had the ability to play outside he'd have taken one of their jobs. Rex like his veteran players. He's not suicidal about it though.
I think McDougle's best fit is inside but we'll see how it goes. Not so sure about that. Rex is pretty ride or die with regards to his vets.
Last year moving wilson outside would have weakened the slot more than shoring up the edge,leaving 2 positions questionable. this year there seems to be better options in the slot than previous, i wouldn't be surprised to see wilson get an oppurtunity to step into cb2
Its sad that Milliner is our #1 corner but it is what it is. He was the worst CB in football most of last year. If he regresses this year, this secondary will be a mess. That said, it'll be Milliner, Patterson, Pryor, and Landry.
I was impressed with what I saw out of Patterson in Miami, last year. If he's healthy, I'd be stunned if he isn't our week one starter.
I agree, my money would be on Patterson to at least start the season. They paid him a decent chunk of change - not that it matters for competition, but they thought highly enough to give him almost as much as Cromartie got.
Milliner-Allen-Pryor-McDougle Landry will rotate in and Pryor is here to minimize the damage to both our corners
Milliner-Landry-Pryor-Patterson I think the 2nd outside corner job is Patterson's to lose, with Wilson in the slot. McDougle is still a rookie, and given Patterson and Milliner's injuries in the past, we'll need others to step up.
I think Landry starts the year over Allen because he'll be the one calling the secondary. Allen hasn't done that to date and it's a huge responsibility. Maybe I'm wrong and he knows the defense well enough to do it from game one. With our brutal forestall schedule to start the year against pass happy teams the last thing I want to see out there is a rookie cb taking his lumps (again). Teams just know to go after them, and I'd just much rather have Pattersom back there to start the year off. So Milliner-Landry-Pryor-Patterson to start the year off with Wilson in his familiar role of slot cb. And if we sign Reed it's not going to be till week one when the season has already started. Idzik is not gonna guarantee his contract for the entire year.
Honestly I don't know to much about McDougle.. I have heard though that he should have been a 6-7 round pick and we reached for him. If Milliner struggled last year and he was a first round pick and the best corner, how can a guy projected to go in the 6th or 7th round come in and beat out a guy who has been on the team for 4 years?? Would love to see it happen, but I think it is going to take a little time.
Cb#2 : Patterson Cb#3 : walls Wilson doesn't make any impact plays. Would be surprised if he beat out walls/Patterson Mcdougle is not going to start.
Yeah, this is where my lack of confidence in the Cb situation comes back. I just posted on the McDougle thread in response to positive info about him, but too much optimism makes me queasy. I have heard the same things about him being projected to go lower, in fact much lower, than the third round. but I do defer generally to Rex's knowledge about defensive players, and it is not baseless homerism to say so. Someone mentioned Wilson as a problematic choice for Rex, but not everyone always picks winners. In fact count me as supportive of his selection of Milliner, who I expect will prove out as a valid first round pick. Still, McDougle as a solution at #2 cb is a far from clear situation.
Everybody advances at a different speed. Milliner came in and was basically handed a job and took awhile to make the adjustment. McDougle isn't going to be handed anything and he may adjust much faster or not at all. There's a wide open range of possibilities for him at this point and he's got more incentive than Milliner did coming in the door because if he fails there are lots of other people who might grab his opportunity and run with it.
