Nyjets defense vs San Fran defense

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  1. DJ WOO Child

    DJ WOO Child New Member

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    So I just moved to the bay and made a bet with co worker for $100 that this years jets defense will rank better than San Frans D. My thinking was with bowman out and Alton smith probably gonna miss at least 6 games hey may drop a bit. With our front seven and if the Dbs hold up(PLEASE GOD) I think we can do it..... What do u all think about this????? Stupid or good call?
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    I would probably put that Cnote in a envelope and hold on to it until the season is over. One more thing, stop hanging out with Calvin Pace... :D
     
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    My god, classes start again in a couple weeks, correct?
     
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    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Rank better how? Points, yards, DVOA? You better square that up
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah, I was wondering the criteria myself. I'm guessing total team defense (a stupid term for total yards accrued and allowed), but that is kind of a weak ranking when you take everything else into account.
     
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    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    If the definition of better is which defense has the coolest cats, you've got this in the bag baby.
     
  7. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    I want to know the criteria also. It's an interesting fan's bet, and you have a better chance than just betting straight-up W-L records of the two teams because I don't see the Jets having a better record than them.
     
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    Your biggest concern is the jets offense.
    A good offense will make this defense top 5.
     
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    To me D is measured on points against.

    We have a tough schedule but so do the Niners. Games against Dallas, Denver, Philly, KC, New Orleans and of course 2 against the champs and Id say you have a pretty good chance to win the bet. If its being bet on as points against.
     
  10. strngplyr

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    Both defenses are very similar, along with the Panthers. Based on a dominant front 7 and pretty mediocre secondaries, opposite of the likes of Seattle. The Jets DL is one of the scariest I can think of as a Pats fan, but that may also be because I have to watch those games twice a year. They may not sack Brady a ton, but they shutdown the run and in most games get some pressure.

    I'd probably favor the 49ers slightly because of the Aldon Smith factor, when he plays, the Jets don't have someone similar. If he ends up missing a lot though, the Jets probably have a more solid core of front seven players, they just lack that X factor, though Wilkerson can definitely do a lot of damage, the 9ers biggest advantage is having both Smiths and those 2 dominant ILBs.

    As for your bet, what category are you basing it off of? Yards? Points?

    If it's points, the 9ers play 6 games against all defensive teams, the Jets play 4 against offensive teams (Buffalo will probably score a few points) for divisional matchups.

    The only offenses the 49ers will play against are Philly, Washington (may not even count, depends on RG3), Denver, and SD (insanely inconsistent week to week).

    The Jets will face GB, CHI, DET, SD, DEN, NE x2, and BUF x2 (very debatable on whether they'll be good though).

    Based on schedules the 49ers will allow less points and the Jets offense is more prone to turnovers than the 49ers, meaning their defense will spend more time on the field. Yardage may be similar, but I'm going to put my money on the 49ers for allowing less points. Having 6 divisional games where the scores are in the teens more often than not helps them quite a bit. AFCE games tend to be 2x-3x final scores.
     
  11. DJ WOO Child

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    My bad for not being specific enough....the bet was based on yards not points... I thought yardage would be closer than points.. It may have not been the smartest bet but I feel with a few bounces our way we can do it... That was my logic.....
     
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    the NFL ranks D based on ypg.
    no single criteria is perfect alone, but i'd suggest going with this one. keep it simple.
    SF has rightfully ranked a little higher than the Jets the last couple of years. But its been close, and the talent gap has narrowed. so it's prob about a 50/50 bet in my estimation.

    Dont go by points per game. its a shit stat for D, as opposing defensive and special teams TD's count against you (even tho had nothing to do with D).
    Also, when the offense turns the ball over in own territory, the D can force a 3 and out but still the FG counts against the stat.
    considering the Jets will turn it over more than SF, that would make ppg a bad bet, as well as a poor stat to measure defenses.
     
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    The only thing that worries me is the corners. This could be a pretty good year, but it could also be another year the secondary gets bombed on.
     
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    I have no idea what San Frans defense looks like and just a mere understanding of our front seven. Your money is as good as gone.
     
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    San Fran has the best LB core in football when healthy by far. I feel we have the best front 3. They have better safeties. CB is a toss up both teams might stink at that position but milliner has more potential than anyone they have. Its gonna be a close one. You might win cuz bowman, aldon, & Dorsey will miss a chunk of games
     
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    Sf d will be on the field less and playing with a lead more then the Jets d. You sir made a bad bet. That's not saying they do have a better d but rather their stats should be better.
     
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    A little luck might have come your way, today.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm out of the loop, please explain.
     
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    Aldon Smith just got hit with a 9 game suspension.

    Our Cb situation is cause for concern. But, for the duration of 9 games, that could take its toll on the SF Defense.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I just texted my 49ers fan brother in law with the news, lol
     
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