I think this article should be ignored as trash instead of getting all freaked out about the competition mantra and all the other BS. Fact of the matter is that performance to date did not justify enough separation to unseat the incumbent. The rest is not worth getting upset over. Its unfounded journalistic trash at best.
Unbelievable. This guy comes in with an amazing attitude, does everything that's asked of him, embraces the role of the mentor, and he still catches flack. You can't win if you try.
During the Sanchez era, Rex never had a viable backup. Rex was right when he said Mark gave us the best chance to win. If Geno were awful Rex would make the switch in my opinion.
I can't buy absolving Idzik for this situation, although much of what you say, the parts about Ryan mishandling Qb in the past, is beyond dispute. And the competition stuff is so much hooey. Idzik's guy is Smith. He drafted him. The Jets were not going to draft a Qb with a high pick, either, to give Smith a chance this off and in the coming regular season. If Smith pans out, Idzik looks like a successful GM. If he doesn't, at best the jury stays out. The Vick signing might at first appear contrary to that, but it really wasn't, because here I agree with Brad. The signing was really an insurance policy. I still think Vick gives the Jets the best chance to win, and that poor performances by Smith in the regular season, even if he's replaced by Vick at a certain point, could be enough to make the difference between the playoffs and not. But at worst Vick coming in would prevent a total collapse. He's insurance that would prevent any chance of a replay of the middle of last season. Ryan knows Idzik wants to see if Smith can stick. He may even have an understanding with Woody that Ryan will not take the fall if Smith fails. That is not so crazy an idea, not at all. So while i agree that Ryan's history is here has been very bad, I do think playing Smith is on Idzik.
at first glance you look at articles like this and think to yourself, 'who in the hell would be stupid enough to buy this bullshit?' but then you come onto this message board...
The problem is, and this has gone back to the Sanchez era, is that this organization sucks at managing quarterbacks. Go back to when they signed Tebow and then gave Sanchez a hefty extension. Did they trust Sanchez or did they want competition, which was it? Then Geno comes in, Rex throws Sanchez "his quarterback " into a meaningless preaseason game and he's done for the year. Then Geno has rocky rookie year, Idzik seemed to have wanted Vick more than any other player this offseason. Knowing that Vick wanted to compete for the starting job as he is still a decent quarterback when healthy, they then tell him no were siding heavily towards Geno. Yet, they never went ahead and said Geno's the starter until we all saw how many reps Geno got in the offseason and figured it out. I realize we've had our struggles at QB, most bad offenses go through these kind of issues, but they can't be wishy-washy like this all the time. Its probably one of the reasons why we've had such a bad offense as of late.
I agree. Draft position should not play a role in regards to being a GM's QB. He's taking first team reps, he's starting regular season games once that happens, the GM is tied to that QB and every decision he makes going forward will affect the quarterback position.
I think Vick has done a good job of playing the good soldier here. But I also think Vick made sure to put the kibosh on the idea there was a competition for the starting job that the CS and FO were selling. He did not want anybody believing he was beat out as the starter in some fair competition.
7 wins is really being kind...unless there's many many teams that aren't gonna be as good as expected
i thought that initially as well. pride serving as a defense mechanism. a different thought has crossed my mind though....what if Vick is just looking to be a backup at this point? keep off the field, stay healthy, and continue cashing pay checks around the league in a non-playing 'mentor' role. many teams are looking for that, it can be quite lucrative, and is easier on the body. that type of attitude would be a disappointment. of course it is just a thought. i have no idea if that is the case. have to admit, it is plausible though.
Does anyone seriously believe Vick isn't gonna see the field for us this year? The most popualr player on this team, with this fanbase and the NY media is always the backup QB
lol since when is Vick the most popular player with the fan base? last polls i saw, around 50% of fans didn't want him here at all. and yes, i do seriously believe we aren't going to see much of him at all, and he'll be gone next offseason.
lol. They should hand out this article on the first day of journalism 101. If you can read it without starting off into the distance and feeling a stab in your heart for our woebegone culture, you're expelled.
the title should read; Vick disappointed Jets coaches The media by taking QB2. this year sucks, its not like last years belated bout, that was awesome, we could write about that for ages, AND include references to the buttfumble! But this year everybody was on the same page and shit, I can't write about that!
I really love the attitude by Vick and Smith. Both team 1st and supportive of each other. It is such a positive change over Sanchez's attempts to divide the team the last years by using the media to attack the coaching staffs integrity and attack and intimidate Smith. I am particularly impressed by Vick. When he first joined the team he was honest that he was just there to support and mentor Geno. His statements in the media have always been team 1st. The same goes for Geno but it has to be much harder for a guy who will be the backup to be so supportive. Have to give Vick a on of credit for his character. This QB situation could have been a divisive media bloodbath if both QBs were not so humble and supportive of each other. The media has and wanted a QB controversy and has seemed to write every story form the perspective of inciting one.
The EVIL NEW YORK MEDIA strikes again! Every media outlet between Philadelphia and Hartford hates the Jets. They have nothing better to do than stir up garbage to try and create controversy!!! Oh pity the poor New York Jets for all the negative coverage they seem to crave! Maybe they should only grant interviews and access to those who are lets say, friendly and willing only to paint the rosiest of pictures no matter the facts. If only the Media would cooperate, the Jets would go 14-2 and get homefield throughout the post season. Blame the media for everything! Much easier than looking in the mirror.. Oh, and when you're done blaming the media, you can always blame the Refs for being biased against the Jets too. Then after that, blame the schedule maker, the weatherman, the other team..... Its never the Jets that are at fault ever. Of course if you don't agree, you don't know anything about football.
