Coaching Staff lost this game

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  1. I thought one of the biggest mistakes was not playing Powell more when it became obvious that they were keying on CJ2K.

    Rex said we would "ride the hot hand" at RB..while Ivory may have been the best back in the 1st half..he was largely ineffective in the later juncture. I thought Powell showed some nice quickness today & made defenders miss more than once. I didn't think the run blocking was that bad & I think Powell would have been more productive.
     
  2. freemantoon

    freemantoon Active Member

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    No Doubt!! Rex fucked up! Milliner should not have been on the field! He coudn't run!! Coaching was very poor today. Marty included.
     
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  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Rex is way too stubborn with the blitz sometimes. He blitzed on two crucial plays on that end of the half drive by Rodgers including the touchdown pass where the receiver simply sat down in a hole and let Rodgers fire it with his lightning quick release. There was no adjustment on the sit route that he literally threw all day for 10 yard gains. Why not throw in some underneath coverage with help over the top to cut away that short pass? The front four wasn't great today but they made Rodgers move around enough.

    It's so frustrating that he can't send 5 or 6 it seems with some zone mixed in. He always has to put 7 or 8 on the line and send all of them or drop all of them. At that point dropping all of them does nothing for the underneath routes on the outside that Rodgers killed us with all day. The lack of adjustments to one of the best quarterbacks in the league with the quickest release. He made adjustments because he knew the blitz was going to get there. I wonder how many stop routes by Jordy Nelson it takes to drill into Rex's head that he needs someone underneath to stop him.
     
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    Milliner took himself out of the game. He just wasn't ready.

    I'm not ready to close the book on him. The Jets haven't given him good run blocking - even in week 1 pro football focus ranked us near the bottom in run blocking, despite the 200+ rushing yards.
     
  5. displacedfan

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    Rex also dropped 8 back and Rodgers completed a pass to the 1 yard line. Rodgers and Packers were just picking on our corners, no matter what the Jets did.
     
  6. tomdeb

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    rex ryan will AGAIN fail to make the playoffs this year because of games like today. Read my thread "terrible play calling" Outcoached every week, too many penalties, no discipline for playrers. This is what happens when you have a cheerleader as a coach who tatoos numbers to his body instead of a real coach.
     
  7. ArodtoJennings

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    If the Jets took advantage of our onside kick which was a bad play call by us then they would have won the game. If we don't hit Geno Smith on that pass play then he might throw for a touchdown instead of an interception
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Again though, it doesn't seem like there is ever a middle ground with him. That's why when they crowd the line they're either getting all or nothing. There needs to be more of a variety of 5 and 6 man blitzes rather then all or nothing.

    Either way the 3 and 4 man pass rushers are disgustingly nonexistent. There's supposed to be some sort of push up the middle from our big boys and there's absolutely nothing. Maybe that's why Rex chooses to send the house on 3rd and shorts or 3rd and 17's. He doesn't play to scenarios or the other teams adjustments, just what he wants to do.

    With this all being said, I'm a Rex supporter. But he needs to learn to make some adjustments.
     
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    That had that variety, it worked at times and others it didn't. The Jets were not going to limit the Packers to a low scoring game, they just didn't have the secondary to do that. I think Rex tried to mix it up, but at points the wrong play was called, players got beat, and Jordy made some difficult catches.
     
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    Yeah, he's only had 5 years of coaching this team--let's give him another 5 years "to learn to make some adjustments."
     
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    I'm going to re-watch, but the insistence on the blitz isn't something that's new to Rex Ryan coached teams. Rodgers drive at the end of the second half was just terrible in terms of the defenses called from what I recall. But like I said I'll re-watch, perhaps I'm being over critical because it was a loss.
     
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    There's been much talk about a player's ceiling, maybe we've seen Rex's ceiling.
    He just can't make the jump to the next level.
     
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    Oh I agree we definitely leaned on the blitz, but I think Rodgers/GB was basically having success on all formations we had at some point
     
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    Milliner was not too hurt; he's just not an elite CB at this stage in his career. We should expect him to make mistakes and give up those kind of plays every now and then. What's unfortunate is that both Milliner and Pryor made mistakes on the same snap.
     
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    Compounded with piss poor tackling by Pryor. He's great at flying around and he got caught out of position on that play, but in general he's too reliant on flying in on guys and diving at their ankles. I hope he gets coached up to break down and tackle at some point because if not he's going to end up with a lot of head problems and a lot of missed tackles down the field. This is why he seems better suited for the strong safety role.
     
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    No I'm pretty sure it was the refs.

    I read that somewhere.

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    This would only be the case if Walls and Allen were playing great. They had their problems too and so did Pryor providing coverage over the top. The fact of the matter is that we do not have a great secondary, more specifically great cover CBs. This includes Milliner who may be a great one down the line but just not now. To expect them to shut down a passing duo like Rodgers and Nelson for an entire game is to set unrealistic expectations.
     
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    That was his MO. He's a heat seeking missile that will blow up his mark when on target but expect a few off target mushroom clouds.
     
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    The lack of discipline is really a big problem. Too many penalties, lack of cool, just stupid plays. You don't see teams winning a lot of games giving teams 100 free yards, free first downs, etc.

    I like rex but he needs to get this corrected. Players like him but the penatlies show they don't fear him like players feared Parcells or fear Beli up in NE. Players don't make these mistakes when they know they will get benched.
     
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    It is crazy that MM was calling that TO. However, I think it is more disturbing that Rex had no idea that MM was thinking of calling a timeout. It speaks to their lack of communication and Rex's continued disengagement from offense and special teams. Would MM feel comfortable even yelling "timeout" if he had not been given carte blanche to run the offense? Can you imagine Belichick or Parcells giving a coordinator that much leeway? The team can't consistently win when the HC only focuses on one phase of the football team.
     
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