everyone is talking about his top picks but the difference between a good gm is how they do late in the draft and cheaper free agents. Let's look at some of his moves Calvin Pryor a first round luxury pick, he is a hitter in a league that doesn't allow you to hit, terrible coverage guy likes to tackle with shoulder has been invisible Amaro he looks decent but does not get separation has a lot of 2 and 3 yard catches, 3rd down catches short of first down so numbers are def misleading but has had problems with drops since preseason Mcdoogle I think that is his name since he is on it,injured player in college injured player in NFL, but was not going to be savior of this defense 3 WR in 4th round and not one playing at all equals awful, especially with this wr group And final 4 picks might never play equals awful I know late picks are not all going to be players but how about one or two Free agents and trades, Patterson and Goodwin enough said can't be worse Ivory Idzik best move hands down, everyone has to get at least one move right Last years draft Milner injured cb to replace one of best cb ever I know we picked Sheldon with Revis pick but would have picked Sheldon of revis was still on team milner has been injured but he was benched 3 or 4 times last year, he might be a player but might not Sheldon Richardson great pick Bryan winters 3rd round guards should be players he had been awful rest of draft no contribution This gm has no track record other than being lucky enough to work in Seattle, doesn't mean he had anything to do with making them good Idzik has been awful in the draft, awful in free agency, why would anyone defend him
It hasn't gone according to script for Idzik that's for sure, he's two years in and basically needs to start over at this point, that's not a good place to be for a GM.
With this ownership, Idzik has nothing to worry about as long as he keeps a "rainy day fund" aka: Cap Space. Record really doesn't matter anymore. Only the ledger as this fanbase celebrates losses as if they're wins on a regular basis. Want to understand why Idzik is on solid ground? Follow the money.
Even if the could shown a bit of improvement over last season. 9-7 would be Herculean compared to this crap.
It makes me mad that he didnt take the time to invest in the cornerbacks and a second wide receiver in the offseason. In terms of the draft this year, Calvin Pryor looks to be very rangy could turn out to be a good pick. Jace Amaro looks like hes going to be a keeper in the future (stop dropping passes), Dex McDougle still has a chance to turn out as a good player. Out of Dozier, Ekenampali, Evans, Enunwa, and Reilly there is still a chance that they all end up as solid role players. In terms of last years draft class. Sheldon has been a stud, Milliner has been hurt, Winters (garbage), Aboushi we shall see. And Geno played well yesterday (maybe he can build on it) I like the fact that he traded a 4th for Ivory. I have been saying that he is pretty bad so far and rightfully this season is on him. Does he deserve the right to spend $50 mil in cap space, probably not, but with some marquee free agents, and another draft the team could be well positioned for next year. Just hate that he botched this season.
I'm thinking im pissed about the season but must logically we are building for next year. We are rebuilding people
Calvin Pryor has made no plays, does nothing was known as a hitter not a coverage guy and it shows, like to tackle with his shoulder Amaro looks like the best pick but still has suspect hands and doesn't seem to get separation Mcdougle might be a player but was injured in college know injured in NFL The other picks not one is even dressing So hard to say they will be anything, I don't need studd but need them to at least dress and maybe a few contribute Last year Again richardson was a great pick, milner seems like will be a bust Geno who knows but he feel into our laps Winters and the rest of the draft garbage again, the later round pick need to contribute and they Re mostly off the tremor not contributing at all
AMEN!!!! I love Rex. I admit it. So sometimes I'm biased. But this year isn't his fault. You can only coach so much. He has nothing to work with thanks to this d-bag Idzik. I want him fired yesterday. Revis ASKED to come back. Idzik balks. DRC. Balks. Verner. Ignores. Talib. Ignores. Who did he think would be manning his CB positions? Oh, the rookie on IR, the guy who was cut during preseason or the injured 2nd year player who's done nothing to prove his worth in the NFL. Where's our number 1 WR? Oh that's right, we passed on receivers in a deep WR draft. We decided it'd be better to draft 3 nobodies in the 4th rather than attempt to snap one up in the first 3 rounds. Fuck John Idzik. I hope he gets shit canned and never sniffs an NFL job again. I'd take Tanny over this asshat. But hey, we're $23 million under the cap, so we have that going for us.... Da fuq? End rant.
Lets put this team's situation in perspective: 1) Interested FO personnel from Caldwell to Ross to Polian decided to not go with the Jets and Idzik was 3rd or 4th on line for the position. Most of it was because Woody Johnson wanted to keep Rex Ryan rather than usher in a GM and HC together. Point was, this was a very undesirable position. 2) The cap situation was bleak. Even if Holmes and Sanchez had outs in their contract, year 1 was set to be ugly and where the Jets could only work and pickup the scrap heap. The mess Mr.T left behind from a cap standpoint was crippling for the team short team and Idzik dedicated 1 if not 2 seasons to offer the cap flexibility we have today, spent or unspent. 3) Because of draft pick trades for veterans and trade ups in the draft, this team mortgaged the depth of the future and did not take the draft seriously in certain years under Tannebaum(2007, 2009, 2010 stick out to me with the lack of quantity). We've traded for or acquired the following Patrick Ramsey(Trade) Sean Ryan(Trade) Kevan Barlow(Trade) Thomas Jones(Trade) Darrelle Revis(Trade up) David Harris(Trade up) Dustin Keller(Trade up) Brett Favre(Trade) Kris Jenkins(Trade) Lito Sheppard(Trade) Mark Sanchez(Trade up) Shonn Greene(Trade up) Braylon Edwards(Trade) Antonio Cromartie(Trade) Caleb Schlauderaff(Trade) Santonio Holmes(Trade) Kevin O' Connor(Trade) Jeremy Kerley(Trade up) Tim Tebow(Trade) Stephen Hill(Trade up) The only 10 veterans we traded away for picks were Doug Jolley(2006), Pete Kendall(2007), Jonathan Vilma(2008), DeWayne Robertson(2008), Kerry Rhodes(2010), Leon Washington(2010), Dwight Lowery(2011), Derrick Mason(2011) Drew Stanton(2012) and John Abraham(2006) (Never did a trade down in the Tannebaum era involving strictly draft picks) That's a 2 to 1 ratio where we gave up draft picks under Mr.T with the picks being traded away vs acquired being of more value(Higher picks/better rounds). I am not advocating to not wheel and deal and not be aggressive but the amount of draft picks we refused to hold onto, specifically in 2007(4 players drafted), 2009(3 players drafted) and 2010(4 players drafted) has had an effect on the team's depth in 2012, 2013 and somewhat 2014 and we began to pay for that. The lack of talent and depth was haunting the Jets long before Idzik came to town, the problem with Idzik is he hasn't improved upon that but this team was not as far off from the talent towards the end of Tannebaum's run but it has only been 2 years on the job and he inherited a messy situation and people were delusional to think this gets cleaned up in a mere 2 years. Way too soon to say he's the worst GM the Jets ever had. Rich Kotite was a General Manager and Head Coach and was abysmal at the job, no way has Idzik done worst than he has.
I agree tanny traded away too many later picks but idzik in two years has not had a later pick do anything, if the later picks are not playing or not even on the team anymore what does it matter if you pick 30 of them
Aboushi had a nice game yesterday and wasn't bad in relief vs Denver. While I don't want to start to proclaim the guy at being anything well, he's been a nice find coming out of the 5th round. Tommy Bohanon was decent as a FB but he got hurt. 4 of his 10 guys(Milliner, Winters, McDougle, S. Evans) taken in the 1st 4 rounds are out for this year, that's pretty unfortunate. Say what you will about McDougle and Milliner's health back in college(Gronkowski with back concerns and all out of Arizona, didn't start to miss games until year 3. Its either your lucky or not.) but Evans and Winters never were concerned injury plagued college players.
Winters sucked when he played so doesn't matter if he is out or not Evans was stashed on ir because he didn't show much Milner was benched more than he played and had injury concerns coming out Mcdougle many think is the second coming of revis was also injury prone in college Tommy bohanon really come on most full backs are undrated, and he was average at best, he using him as a good pick please Abolish I was behind winters before he got hurt so that tells you how much faith they gave in him (although he does look better than winters not saying much)
He did but I still wanted to point that out. It is a blessing in disguise though. Evans had shoulder surgery, stashed or not. That's speculation if a player gets stashed or not. He had a less than desirable training camp but the same was said about Jace Amaro with the drops and problems running routes. Milliner showed improvement last season in December even if vs bad competition, the NFL is the NFL and you play teams on your schedule and got setback by an injury early in training camp that plagued him for the year before the torn Achilles. Hardly if ever missed games at Alabama so while he has had some surgeries he still played through them and played a big role in Alabama's title win. Nobody thinks that of McDougle. Again, Rob Gronkowski had lingering back problems coming out of Arizona(Missed the 2009 season with back surgery) which is the only reason he fell in the 2nd round in the 2010 Draft and he did not miss a game for the Pats until 2012(Year 3). Its a matter of luck or not. McDougle has been an unlucky player with his injuries. 7th round FB, he was okay. You don't really strike much if at all in the 7th round, its silly to hold any GM to that. Winters was given an extended leash because of his draft standing and because they like his physicality, its not a knock on Aboushi. Winters had more time as a starting guard last year which is why he began the year.
Well you have excuses for all the picks who we kept or are playing, how about all the picks that we cut, don't dress Idzik might have been unlucky with a few injured players but how about the picks who just sucked
Its not excuses, its just stupid to say he's the worst GM in franchise history when we had Rich Kotite as a GM for 2 years where we went 3-13 and 1-15 respectively. Picks like Saunders and George are duds and deserve to be questioned, no denying that. We did add Walter Powell from this draft even if he wasn't a Jet pick and while he's nothing special, he's shown something on special teams in the midst of a bad punt return last week. His drafting has been questionable at best but I just want to paint the full picture as to what is happening with the draft picks. Injuries have succumbed almost half of his 10 picks from rounds 1 to 4.
Walter Powell really he looks lost on every punt return fair catches when he can run runs when he should fair catch, let's ball go when he dhpuld catch it not to mention his huge fumble He has one big return on a kick and now he is a good player
Who said he's been a good player lol I said he's shown an ability to show burst. And he looked nice on kick return last night. No one is proclaiming anything about him being a good player but he was apart of this draft and we picked him up so he's a rookie and should be counted for as apart of this draft class.
George isn't a dud he's gonna be a starting ILB in JAX soon. The dud is Idzik for keeping our future ILB on the ps to make space for recycling the active roster with garbage castoff WR's
Powell is awful on punt returns not to mention we drafted a punt returner in the 4th round that we cut
Saunders can play too. I meant duds for the Jets from getting something out of these guys. Cutting a 4th and 5th round pick so soon can't be viewed as anything except a loss.
