John Idzik Alienating Staff and Coaches

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Especially if it's negative and about the Jets.
     
  2. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I hear ya jay. And i was not looking for a name specifically. More my point was the idzic hire wasn't some total reach. He was raided from the s.b. winners f.o. just like our next h.c. will probably be picked off a more successful teams staff.
    My point is there is no parcells out there. Our next g.m. Is going to be John idzic . Of course he will have a different name and come from a different teams office but he will still be an asst to a successful g.m who's team is the new model of success. He will then have 2-3years to find a qb and if he doesn't the billboards will be out again . That's just where we are now.
     
  3. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    The only reason nobody wanted the GM job last time is because they were told they were inheriting Rex as their HC, plain and simple.
    No "top" or "hot" candidate wants that.

    If you clean house and do things right, which seems to go against everything the Jets ever do, you'll get whoever you want to take the job.
    The Jets will own a top 3 pick, have a ton of cap space, and play in the largest media market in all of sports. That's a pretty attractive job.

    As far as the turmoil goes, lets be totally honest, this team has been a circus side show ever since Rex was hired. The only difference is he won in his 1st 2 seasons, which makes it easy to overlook all his bravado and stupid antics.
    Once the losing started Rex's act started wearing thin and his flaws and deficiencies as a HC started to shine as bright as the July sun.

    Clean house from top to bottom and the circus has left town.
    This team needs a fresh start from the scouting department to the GM, nothing short of that will be acceptable in my opinion.
     
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  4. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The biggest problem with John Idzik so far is that he wasn't given the room to build his own front office. In the first year that was partly understandable because he was hired with the 2013 draft mostly already in the can in terms of scouting and what was left was the combine and a couple of months in which nobody played football at the NCAA level. He really should have completely rebuilt the personnel side by now.

    Keeping Rex wasn't a bad choice, although in retrospect it has gone sour. Bringing in a new GM to make cosmetic changes on the personnel side was a mistake. It was the Jets culture of failing to get enough out of the draft that brought the Jets low in 2011 and 2012. That's what needed changing. Talking about using the draft as your lifeblood doesn't do much when you've got the same people bottlenecking the process.
     
  5. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    He's been the GM for two years.
     
  6. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    I like Rex but I swear if they do ANOTHER fire the GM and not the coach it's time to get the straitjacket out for Woody. They need to both go, period. Especially after 2-14 or 3-13 if we beat a just-as-bad Titans next week.
     
  7. Ralebird

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    Right. It just feels like he's been bungling much longer.
     
  8. CaneJet

    CaneJet Well-Known Member

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    If this organization is actually going to make decisions based on fan sentiment, I can expect to go to my grave before the Jets win another Super Bowl.
     
  9. CaneJet

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    And Tannenbaum was the best ever, or so they said after the Favre trade in 08.
     
  10. Jetrik

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    This might be a ridiculous question, but what giving Rex complete control? Or is this a tremendously bad idea?


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  11. soxxx

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    Bad idea, he influenced Tannenbaum with the player choices which all turned out to be bad (guys like Wilson, Hill, etc.)

    Rex is a good coach, just not good at picking players.
     
  12. Jetrik

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    Shame. I really wanted him to have success here. Same with Sanchez. The Jets are just snakebitten.


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  13. fireidzik_billboard

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    Are you aware that the Jets hold focus groups in order to make decisions based on fan sentiment? You can consider firejohnidzik.com one big focus group if it makes you feel better. We won't even charge Woody for this one.
     
  14. jaywayne12

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    Brad...I love you bud...but you lost me in the bold part...I mean...come on...I dont know what to say. Maybe its me..and you are right..but what does that have to do with leaving 22 million on the table...that draft...and then getting a receiver like Harvin after we are out of it...sorry...I cant even touch this after that first line bud.
     
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    I bolded this because it doesn't get discussed correctly enough. I still highly doubt it was Idzik alone that decided to hold onto the money. The $22 million available has to be paid out of Woody's pocket. Until I see evidence otherise, I believe Idzik was given a budget and in this specific area Woody tied his hands. It will be interesting when the press conference comes in Janauary and Mehta gets his nose out of Sanchez' ass long enough to ask Woody if Idzik was allowed to spend that money. The way Woody answers the question will go a long way to identifying the root of the problem.
     
  16. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    You could be right..but here is the problem I have with that. Woody is a slut with PSL's...Woody is conservative with everything...but one thing cant be said...that Woody watches his dollar with the roster. No way. He has spent more stupid money then most every owner. The Jets and cap space? Thats where Woody could care less.\

    Now did Idzik go running into Woodys office yelling and screaming how much money he saved him and Woody got excited? Probably...but if Idzik went in there and said he needed to spend 10 million to sure up the CB position? Woody would say spend it. He always has in the past.
     
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  17. 4jetfans

    4jetfans Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we will actually practice there with a new coach instead of taking our team to FUCKING NY for camp.
    HOW did all that bullshit work out for us.
     
  18. xxedge72x

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    The logic behind not spending 22 mil is that it rolls into next year... which makes perfect sense if you're saving it for the next coach. Assuming that is the logic being employed, then why not just fire Rex after last season? This to me is why Idzik shouldn't be retained. If Woody is in on this "plan" then the Jets are completely screwed with him as the owner.

    I don't think Woody is in on it based on the Harvin move, which was desperation when the season was already lost. That move was to save Idziks own ass. Idzik needs to go.
     
  19. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    I would buy all of this..and thats a pretty sad state for a team. Not giving a coach who lives and thrives on having decent CB's....ANY CB'S. Sad..
     
  20. Big Blocker

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    Again, the reason the Jets are in trouble going to market to replace the GM and HC is because Woody sucks as an owner.
     

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