I get so tired of hearing that. Ok Rex is not his coach we all know that. But please explain his drafts? FA signing? Yes he did good with Richardson, Ivory,Harvin Other then those what has he done? I'm sorry 3 guys in 2 years sucks.
Sure looks like it. Furthermore, is it fair to judge Idzik's picks based on their performance under Rex? Unless it's Tahj Boyd?
The move would have been a great one if we had only gotten a top rated WR to be the no 1 and Decker the no 2. JMHO
I'd like to know how many of the people he is alienating are carry overs from the previous regime. We know the vast majority of the CS is.
Dude really? He eviscerated the QB position, and CB position, the C.S. didn't do that. And by the QB position, that's not a nod to Nacho, but the fact that he married it to Smith...And bringing in Vick alone, as the lone capable player, yet never getting a chance to earn the job...
Rex is Idzik's coach He kept him when he didn't have to, so if he fires Rex in part because of the team he put together then he goes too
Idzik hasn't had any real big misses? Is this a serious post? How about WR in this year's draft for starters? Basically ninety rookie WR's look like NFL players and we somehow drafted only the few stiffs of the group.
Yeah...totally gone...besides an owner who hired his 17th choice GM candidate because no one else would take the job while having a HC forced on them then fired him 2 years later never having been able to choose his head coach. Qualified candidates who often only get one...maybe two chances if they're extremely lucky at such a job will be jumping to get in on that.
You said that we'd gone from the AFC Championship game rosters of 2009 and 2010 to the mess we have now and you laid that at the feet of John Idzik. In fact we went from the AFCCG rosters to a mess between the end of 2010 and the end of 2012. That's where the huge step down in roster quality occurred. The difference between 2012 and 2014 is complicated because of the injury to the #1 pick in 2013 but there's no way what we have on the field now is worse than what we had in 2012. It's just not producing at the talent level of the roster. Rex is right, this is not a 2-11 talent base, that's pretty damning in terms of where the coaching has been this year. I'm not happy about the talent base either but I have no doubt somebody else could come in and go 5-11/6-10 with this roster easily. The Jets need a QB to improve much on that because they have nothing like the strength they had overall in 2009 with all the prime free agents a year or two from retirement.
Idzik may need to go, new GM, new QB, new Head Coach, I get it. But these billboards and protest towels are an embarrassment for our franchise. I wish they would just stop, Idzik is a problem but he's hardly the only problem, how many offensive coordinators have we been through? How many drafts did we blow before Idzik ever got here? How many seasoned vets on the O-Line did we let walk only to replace with shit? Who has a "top 5 defense" who can't seem to ever make a stop when they need it? Who can win with the shittiest QB play from like four different QB's in the entire league over the past 5-6 years?
Thanks for explaining the towels. You know that they also have the head of the scouting department and the team president on there too with the message "Clean House"? This message extends to the coaching staff. Front office - scouting - coaching… get rid of all 3 and bring in a General Manager (FIRST) who is a personnel guy that is proven & well respected and will fill those vacancy's with HIS guys.
Now I'm glad I didn't donate money for your billboards/towels. I don't think Rex should be fired because Idzik didn't give him shit to work with. The greatest coach ever could had done nothing with this talent.
We respect Rex… but you can't bring him back and force him on another GM… it would limit our candidates again - doing that is the reason we wound up with Idzik in the first place.
I'm sorry I don't buy that. We are not going to any good candidates with or without Rex. He interviewed a few good ones a few years ago and they all knew before those interviews that Woody was keeping Rex. So why waste your time and even interviewing for a job u know ur not taking? I think that just a BS excuse for people.
While it was problematic due to Woodrow's requirement, and that made it mostly on Woodrow, it needs to be acknowledged that Idzik accepted that deal when he took the job. If he actually believed Ryan would not allow Idzik to have success as the Jets' GM, Idzik should not have taken the job. Having accepted Ryan's presence as a term of his deal, Idzik in effect DID choose Ryan. That Ryan might not have been his choice if he had a free hand is beside the point. But we don't even know that he would have done that or come up with someone better. Let's say you interview for a job, and you meet someone you will be expected to work with. You go home to talk about the meeting with your wife, and you say you have some doubts about this person. So, are the doubts big enough to make you think you should not take the job, or not? Seems to me if you take it, you are saying you think it will work despite the doubts. It's part of the package. Beyond that and despite my problems with Ryan I don't see the argumetn that Ryan prevented Idzik from diong HIS job. What evidence of that is there? None.
There is no way to say that another coach could have gotten more from this roster. Rex is definitely at fault here but how much blame lies on his head rather than idziks is really up for debate. Idzik has drafted a couple of good players but overall his draft prowess is questionable which presents a serious problem for a guy whom believes in building throhgh the draft. While it may be true that coaching has failed the rookies, it is more likely that we failed to bring in enough quality guys to actually have these so called competitions in camp. When youre playing against scrubs, its easy to look better than you are and fool people into thinking they are set at a position. That our second stringers did well in preseason is likely a sign of this problem. The jets need to make big changes but im not sure if making these changes will be for the best. Idzik has in two years done nothing to prove he knows his stuff. In fact so far he has been very much like tanny; signing names that sound better than their playing ability. The only difference is where tabny would trade draft picks to pick up more names, idzik is using the picks and grtting no results. Which is better? Well for the moment the former at least fieods a respectable team while the latter goes 2-11 through 14 weeks. The jets d has always overperformed. This is the only reason i dont want to get rid of rex. He IS a good coach and with the right players he could be great. His first two seasons were not an anomaly. We have all first hand witnessed the systematic break down of the roster as players age or the wrong signings are made. Cleaning house might not be the answer but it seems to be the only option. Im weary fir the future
