Never said they ran a true pro-style offense. Just pointing out that the scheme they run now as compared to what they ran at the turn of the century is pretty different. Just because Smith and Harrington failed doesn't mean Mariota will. Sure, he could end up being a bust, but it will have very little, if anything at all, to do with the fact that he played for Oregon in college, that's all I was trying to say.
Also, if you go a little farther down in that article you linked, you'll see this. "He looked at what Rich Rodriguez was doing at West Virginia with the read option. He got a close look at Urban Meyer’s spread-option offense in a loss to Utah in 2003. It was Northwestern, though, that really sold him. “I watched what they were doing in the Big Ten,” he said of a program that stunned the league with its spread offense on the way to the 2000 title. “Running the ball so effectively and doing it with less talent. I said, ‘That’s where we need to go.’” Bellotti switched offensive coordinators, bringing in Gary Crowton from BYU. The Oregon playbook shrunk dramatically. The Ducks scored nearly 10 points more per game and finished 10-2 in 2005 — the losses, to USC and Oklahoma, were later vacated by those teams because of NCAA sanctions."
Furthermore, Chip Kelly wasn't at Oregon until 2007, which I got from reading the article you linked. "Kelly arrives When Crowton left in 2007 to join Les Miles at LSU, Bellotti had to convince Kelly to leave his native New Hampshire for the other coast. “I said ‘I won’t be coaching for a lot longer, the last few OCs have gone on to good jobs —why not try it?’” Bellotti recalled. “Finally, he said, ‘OK.’” That’s when Oregon went exclusively to a no-huddle attack, running each practice with a play clock that showed less and less time on it as the Ducks got more and more proficient. And that’s when things exploded."
I'm strictly talking about the offense they ran in college. It is a college spread offense. I don't trust QBs that come from those colleges - they don't operate in the pocket like a QB that comes from a pro-style - that's my preference.
It's completely different imo, and add the fact that the college defenses don't have real time to prepare for an Oregon offense they only see once the entire year. Mariotta is passing on college students who are being coached by coaches who are not exactly the greatest defensive geniuses. I would not draft mariotta, he will not make it in the nfl. I hope he goes up against Alabama because Alabama will have enough time to prepare and it will be telling just good mariotta can play against a prepared top notched defense.
What do you mean "no Heisman has ever been a great NFL player"? Barry Sanders wasn't a great NFL player? Tony Dorsett wasn't a great NFL player? OJ Simpson? Earl Campbell? Tim Brown, Charles Woodson, Eddie George, even Testeverde - there's been plenty of great NFL players that won the Heisman.
What context? Here's the whole quote from the original post: "If Mariota wins the Heisman, which he should, please dont perpetuate the illogical BS that no Heisman has ever been a great NFL player." He's clearly advancing the notion that "no Heisman has ever been a great NFL player" - it's ludicrous. If you read the rest of his post, he's saying it's "illogical" just because some great NFL player (like Manning) could have won a Heisman, not because great players (like Barry Sanders and Tony Dorsett) actually did win the Heisman.
Most likely but considering JStokes nitpicks everything you write word for word, we cannot assume he meant Qb........
Manziel has looked god awful so far in his first NFL start,typical Heisman winning QB who can't adjust to a pro style offense
Which is hypocrtical considering he has spelling/grammar mistakes quite often, but god forbid someone else makes a mistake....
I think Mariota is too nice. He probably doesn't have the ego. Marino. Jerk. Elway. Jerk. You gotta be a jerks to be a jerk.
Staubach was not a jerk. Aikman was not a jerk. Rodgers is not a jerk. Eli Manning is not a jerk. Bart Starr was not a jerk. Jim Plunkett was not a jerk. Joe Flacco is not a jerk. They all won Super Bowls as starting QBs.
