Too bad they officially announced it nearly two weeks ago. http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/index.php?content_id=2566§ions_id=#2566 Did you find that story about Ryan turning down the Jets job even though they offered him twice as much?
You are definitely high on the fumes of Joe's posts. You're calling out the Raiders for Gruden? When's the last time the Jets had the chance to fire a coach? Kotite? How long ago was that? But maybe you're right and Al is crazy. You'd have to be crazy to think ANYONE would part with a first rounder for a role player like Doug Jolley. Right?...
^Touche, of sorts. All is fair in something and something. At least Al Davis looks er, fashionable. But c'mon, you can't be happy in your current state of affairs - unless you like that sort of thing.
Of course I'm not happy. Raider and Jet boards are full of complaints these days with good reason. I take my medicine from Chief, Bronco, and Charger fans with some regularity. But I have to draw the line somewhere, you guys are 4-12 too! I'm not happy with a lot of what Davis has done, but put yourself in my shoes. This time last year the Raiders were well over the cap, like they always are. A lot of teams use that as an excuse. Davis found a way to pick up Moss, Jordan, Burgess, and trade their backup TE to get into the first round. If Bradway or Tannenbaum could pull off deals like that, do you think people would take kindly to me saying they're "in diapers" or "crazy"? My problem is I come here knowing that Sundayjack is just pouring out lighter fluid to ignite Raiderjoe, and I wind up allowing myself to get burned! It's all in fun anyway...
Sure, as a Fan, Im not very often happy in the last few years since the SB year. But, the great thing about the Raider Nation is while we will be critical of the team, we also know that Al is one step from pulling the trigger on some deal that will improve us to the point of dominance. We live in one of the absolute toughest divisions year in and year out, but have seemed to find our way to the playoffs in each decade, with us at least going to the AFC championship game in every decade since merger. Not too bad, there. Al can be knocked for many things, but his passion for winning, coupled with his football knowledge and willingness to open the pockets is something I do respect. But, on topic, being critical of the coaching changes from the Jets definately falls under the topic of pot calling the kettle black...or green if you will. We may have made the best or worst call on the coaching ladder this off season, but you know even less about your coaching changes than we do, since we at least have a track record to look at. Let's play a game before we annoint your guy and fire our guy, hmmm? As for Gruden, at least we got some very high draft picks for him, that ultimately translated in us getting Moss. I would think the Jets would have loved to have gotten Moss for Herm. Just opinions guys, thats all we have right now.
YEs I found out where I saw information about Ryan being offered twice as much to be Jets DC. But IT was Raider source (usually right) who posted the information about Ryan(this was at time when NY media was speculating that Ryan would be named Jets DC) I can list what this source posted about the 1/2 more salary Jets offered ryan but obviously since its not from media outlet, your going to have your doubts. Heck your didn't believe stuff from NFL Network about Petrino. I was so confident in this Raider source that I told numerous Jet fans that R Ryan would not be Jets DC. I can post this information supporting my claims.(look at time of posts)
Yes, 4 -12, but I harbor no false illusions - scratch that: I harbor no delusions of grandeur. I don 't think I speak out of turn by saying that most of us don't, which of course includes Sundayjack. "Tell me about the rabbits, George. I mean, tell me about the Raiders, Joe." - because it is all in good fun indeed.
So you basically don't have any credible source. I have a source that says Al Davis had a sex change operation.
Jeaux. . . dude. We have to have some standards around here. You can't just tap the nearest guy dressed up as a pirate on the shoulder, and then call him a credible source. And, yes, Adam Schefter did write a story about how Bobby Petrino's 16 year old son plays high school football. But Bobby Petrino didn't turn down the Radiers THREE times because his son Nicky the football hero told him to. That's ridiculous, and deep down you know that, Jeaux. It's one of those silly things that people say but (until now) nobody actually believes.
That's why reading through threads is important, plinko. An early riser, but a lazy bones?! Go back a page. :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis So I had some fun with Al Davis' Wikipedia entry. Something tells me that pic won't last. But the proof will live on.
Heh. Great photo. Shame about Wikipedia trying to get all responsible these days. And thanks to whoever revived my favorite thread.
