How would we be able to get a second round pick as well? I think we would be getting too much, but I think it would be wise for the Jets to add a guy like Simeon...
rice is one of the all time sack leaders and only fits in the 4-3. so if the bucs want him out then he must be at the end of his career. what would he do in the 3-4? if anything hed want pro bowl money to be a 2 down pass rush backer. no thanks. the only thing that makes it sound enticing is the draft pick which we wouldnt get. lol. robertson still might have a place at DE. depends what you think of both players but in my mind rice is done.
Not only that, he also has a big contract... He's very good in a 4-3, though this year his play has tailed off...But in a 3-4, at 32, i'm not really wanting to get into that...
The reason I mention this is that the Bucs are getting absolutely nothing out of McFarland, who has been hurt most of the season. They play a 4-3 and D-Rob would be a definite upgrade for them at RDT. The Jets are getting very little out of D-Rob and could definitely use a pass rushing end of Rice's caliber, albeit one on the downside of his career. After the season the Jets are going to have a king-sized headache trying to get as much value for D-Rob as they would in this trade. I think it would be a win-win deal.
The deal would essentially be D-Rob for a second rounder and a body who might pay some dividends. And D-Rob's contract is bigger than Rice's and has longer to run.
But Rice is 32 as people have mentioned, he is at his best in a 4-3 edge rusher, just like a John Abraham and Dwight Freeney...Very average against the run, and not sure how he'd fair standing up rushing the passer... Pass.
C'mon folks, assuming this is possible, I do it for the 2nd rounder alone. What's with the focus on age? Drob is younger so he must have more value, right? No, Rice is actually a good football player (granted, maybe not in our system) whereas Drob is shitty.
The Jets would need Rice back. Can't have the lockerroom feeling like the FO has given up on the season. I agree that he is not a great fit for our system but he is a professional who understands his responsibilities, which on many days I doubt D-Rob is.
It's a huge IF. And quite frankly, it's message board material, so the thread is fine, but realistically it wouldn't be smart to draft a guy who's played in a 4-3 Cover2 most of his career, and played 4-3 in Arizona to ask him to come here, get his very average run-stopping ability being 32 and slowly declining? Nah....I'm just saying no.
Speaking of locker-room...Gruden suspended Simeon Rice two seasons ago for 1 game for comments directed towards Gruden and his staff on how things are run. Also saying publicly the Bucs should pay Keenan McCardell, a no-no. And also being suspended once or twice by Andy Reid in the Pro-Bowl...Not sure the exact reason though. Coles' attitude is tolerable...But Rice also has a mouth that is not needed.
Fair enough. Yours is a logical argument. I just laugh when some poeple assume youth is ALWAYS better. I'd still unload drob and gaylock for a 2nd anyday.
I agree that getting a 2nd back in a D-Rob deal would look pretty sweet right now. The Jets won't get anything as good as that in the offseason for him. The only reason it might be available now is that the Bucs are desperate for help at DT.
I'd do that in about 2.4 seconds...I just don't like the idea of Simeon Rice... But the Bucs aren't that stupid to trade a 2nd for DRob and D-Block...Considering that 2nd will be very high... But hey, that's what message boards are for...Proposals and discussion.
Do you have any idea the salary cap hit they would take for trading Robertson?? NEVER going to happen
The whole point of the trade for the Bucs would be to avoid having a high 2nd round pick. They're 1-4 at the moment and have pinpointed the interior line play as one of the huge issues they have. Another loss or two right now and they're gonna have that high pick though. Their backup defensive tackles at the moment are Julian Jenkins (6'3" 276 lbs) and a defensive end Ellis Wyms (6'3" 290 lbs.) Last week they had Wyms rushing from the end on passing downs and he got two sacks. Believe me they would see D-Rob as a godsend that allowed them to move Wyms outside to his natural position.
D-Rob is built for the bucs D to be honest. id ask for a 2nd if we dealed him out, failing play this yr or not. but i doubt cap room allows it and Rice is washed up, gotta be if theyre letting go an all time sack leader.
If the Jets want a 32 year old pass rusher, they can pick up Peter Boulware for free, at least he has experience in the 3-4.
