Is that what you got out of that? I swear you people can try to defend smith all you want but all you do is make yourselves look foolish..he sucks and pretty much everybody in the NFL knows it but for some reason there are some people on this board that wouldn't wand Brady, Rodgers or even Johnny U here if it meant smith had to sit. It is all pretty obvious.
No but physical tools, heart, brain, and the will to win do. All of which Bryce has and Bob Griffin doesn't. O and btw he threw for 8000 yards and ran for 21 tds.
WHAT YOU MEAN YOU PEOPLE? Just making a point that production doesn't equate to success, otherwise Colt Brennan and Timmy Chang would be elite NFL QBs
GREAT NEWS about your quitting smoking! Congratulations! I know that wasn't easy. Kudos to you. You'll never regret it from a health perspective, financial perspective or having something control you like that. I hope you continue on. My father smoked for 20-25 years, quit for 5-10 years, went into business for himself, was around others who smoked, his nerves got the best of him, and he started smoking again. He smoked for an additional 3-5 years, I think, then quit again, and has never smoked again, but he's now 93 and says that sometimes after a good meal he still gets a strong craving for a cigarette. I hope you don't have to deal with that! You're right, they won't back out on starting Mariota. I just hope for his sake that his body and psyche will be strong enough to hold up and that he won't get ruined by it. I hope they have a good OL. He has some weapons to work with, at least if Beckham-Green can stay out of trouble and on the field. I agree also that Mettenberger won't be content to be a backup, nor should he be. I think he has real starter potential. Unless he does struggle or flop there, I don't think they'll consider trading him until he forces them to by raising a stink or playing out his contract and refusing to re-sign.
WHAT I MEAN YOU PEOPLE IS ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T LIKE ANYTHING SAID ABOUT ANOTHER QB NOT NAMED SMITH. His comment was when Baylor got slowed down Petty struggled and my reply was to show Baylor never got slowed down when Petty played or at least not often enough to make such a ridiculous comment and immediately YOU jump in to make a ridiculous comment about college stats.
[/QUOTE] Thanks for the info. I hadn't heard that obviously. I'm glad to hear that. I like Mariota a lot and hope he succeeds. That is very encouraging. I think he'll probably be ok. I think you're probably right about Whisenhunt having to play him as well.
Lol, I was messing with you dude relax. What does this conversation have to do with Geno Smith? I thought he wasn't good either coming out of the draft. Baylor has been slowed down so that is un-true. See WVU game. That offense didn't look so hot and they played an un-ranked opponent. My statement isn't ridiculous it's 100% true.
Really appreciate the support dude, you were there from the start. Definitely won't forget that one. Working out more often has really helped the cravings, especially in the beginning. I feel like a new person now, it's weird in a way. The hard part was being around people that smoked, I had to step away from going to bars for a bit but it was well worth it. My aunt recently passed away from Lung Cancer, she was a chain smoker like no other, that added some motivation for me too. Just gotta keep working on it! It appears Mariota has his teammates supporting him 110%, especially their receiver Kendall Wright, he looks to have a breakout season with Mariota. Their offensive line and running game needs major work - but I can see that Titans team really grow together as an offense. They are pretty young on that side of the ball. I think Mariota is going to be alright after-all, I didn't think he would be a good fit for the Texans, but Whisenhunt changed up the offense a little bit for Marcus. The accuracy no doubt is there. We shall see in due time.
Tebow once threw for thirty touchdowns at Florida... there's a difference between being a great College Quarterback and a GREAT NFL prospect. Mariota also had ridiculous stats at Oregon, but there were plays throughout games and teams that were able to slow down Oregon's offense. Don't look at box scores, watch the games.
I swear you guys just can't grasp the point. He said Petty struggled when Baylor was being held down...my response, AND THE ONLY REASON FOR MY RESPONSE, was to show Baylor was never held down with Petty running the team...nowhere did I say how that would relate to the NFL or that he would be a great NFL QB, you people are reading that into it on your own. I said what I meant and nothing more. Oh, and I don't care about Tebow when Petty accounted for 83 TDs in two years.
They put up points, that's great. Throughout the course of a game, in any offense, a QB will face adversity and a defense will win the battle in terms of scheme and matchups. When the script breaks down, the QB has to FUNCTION OUTSIDE of the structure of a typical play and climb the pocket, buy time, or manipulate coverage with his eyes, or shoulders and win post snap on the "fly". When Bryce Petty face pressure or had to "improvise", he struggled with his accuracy, and his pocket presence and composure was terrible . Mariota and Oregon up great numbers against MSU but , there where moments in that game where there scheme failed them and Mariota had to win post snap without the aid of his scheme. So yes, a team can finish up with thirty points or so(or guady stats) and still be slowed down over the course of the game, and that's why I said watch the games.[/QUOTE]
You're welcome. I'm glad that you're having such success and feeling so much better. One of my mother's brothers died of lung cancer. It was a pathetic and ugly sight. This was a man that was a farmer and mean as they come. In his 70s, he was still rock hard and strong as a bull and had a full head of black hair. He had been a heavy smoker and got lung cancer. His hair turned white, then fell out, and he wasted away, and was really pitiful at the end. That's not a death I'd wish on any except maybe those Isis thugs. That's awesome news about Mariota! I don't like the Titans, but want to see Mariota succeed and live up to his talent/ability level. I love that we got Williams and Petty, but still think I'd rather have Mariota. Mariota as compared to Petty could be a situation akin to Miami with Marino and us with Kenny O'Brien.
I agree with you vis-a-vis the WVU game. On the balance, which prospect would you rank higher coming out: Petty or Geno (in terms of things like accuracy, pocket presence, arm strength, mobility, etc)
The NFL scouts ranked smith higher as he was a presumed first round pick, petty never was. Of course those same scouts thought brady would be a bust.
Prob Geno Smith. I however, don't think the talent gap was that far apart coming out of college. Geno was only 22 years old coming into the league vs Petty being 24. Geno is more athletic and I would say prob more accurate at this stage compared to Petty. Petty has Geno beat in terms of arm strength - while Geno has very good arm strength, Petty's seems to be better. Petty also seems to be a better leader on the field, he faced adversity much better while Geno faltered his SR year. The stigma of the spread offense, back issues, and age really hurt Petty's stock. You however, would need to put a gun to my head if you had to make me choose between the two, I wouldn't choose either.
As I pointed out earlier the NFL plays the spread offense now although nobody wants to admit it. 61% of snaps in the shotgun, 80%of snaps with an empty backfield, 59% of snaps with more than 3 WRs and a couple more years and that will be the only QBs available as most big time college programs have already moved to it. As far as his back a lot of QBs have issues none more so than Peyton Manning.
There's more to a spread offense then formations. - Huddling / calling plays - Pre Snap - Post Snap - Progressions Michigan State has produced more NFL Prospects at the QB than any school other then USC this decade; both schools run pro-style offense. Those schools prob won't be running spread offenses anytime soon. It's no coincidence the best QBs in the league all came from pro style. The best prospects. From Peyton to Andrew Luck to Teddy Bridgewater to Jameis Winston. All prospects from pro-style offenses. Now the article does talk about pre-snap and post snap, but you still need to read defenses and a lot of those spread offenses do not require QBs to really read defenses.
