Can we start a GoFundMe for a Fire Bowles billboard?

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  1. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Skinny loser?
     
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  2. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    They won't be stealing my tax dollars!!!
     
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  3. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    i like both of those candidates too, but they don't have the resumes to demand stacks and both are just as likely to need to be replaced in 3 years as bowles was last year.
     
  4. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    1. They are most likely more intelligent than Bowles. Practically impossible to not be.

    2. They are offensive minds

    Therefore, I would have no reason to bitch. Who in the hell wanted Bowles to begin with? He's more of a restaurant manager that asks "how is your food today?" Rather than a head coach of 53 grown ass men.
     
  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Lol. Someone hopped on www.FireToddBowles.com already and it can be yours Martin&TheJets for only $250! Get it bro.
     
  6. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it is that bad...
     
  7. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    If the Jets can't find an experienced HC, then I would be on board with Shanahan or Haley, but I'm sick of the first-time HCs. As a poster pointed out yesterday so very well, they've only had 3 HCs in the history of the franchise who had previous experience as a HC. That's pathetic and flat out stupid. Is it any wonder we've had so little success and/or stability? Woody is so freaking stupid he can't look at the team's history and learn from the mistakes that Leon made.

    I don't like Tom Coughlin, nor do I think that either Gruden or Cowher were that great as HCs, but I'd take any of those three in a NY minute over any OC. IMO the only way to get this team some stability, to lay a foundation for success, and to develop our young players is to hire an experienced HC who knows what he's doing.

    IMO the only other option the Jets have is to pray that Woody will be patient with Mac, Mac will develop into a very good GM, will draft very good talent while the team struggles through yet another rookie HC for 3-4 years, and then when the team is deep and stacked with talent, hire an experienced HC at that point.
     
  8. Red Menace

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    Kyle Shanahan and the Evolution of a Young Coach
    The coaching carousel is starting to rotate early this season, and one man expected to get some looks explains why his offense is having success. A look at other potential candidates, plus notes on the NFL’s declining TV viewership, Odell Beckham’s maturity and Tom Brady’s vengeful return
    by Albert Breer
    The coaching carousel is starting to rotate early this season, and one man expected to get some looks explains why his offense is having success.

    Coaching is fun again for Kyle Shanahan, although for a much different reason than it was almost a decade ago when he called his first NFL play.

    “When I started in Houston, those first two years, it was so much fun,” the Falcons' offensive coordinator said, driving home Tuesday night. “We were third and fourth in the league those years—Matt Schaub was at the top of his game; we had Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels, Kevin Walter. We had a ton of success. It was all I knew. We threw it a ton. And after coaching those guys, I thought I could do it with anyone.

    “Then I got to Washington. Different quarterbacks, different personnel, I had to do it different with Donovan [McNabb] and Rex [Grossman], and completely different with Robert [Griffin]. And I learned you have to find different ways to succeed. In Cleveland I had to adjust. In Atlanta we’re running different stuff. I’m fortunate enough to have experienced hard times and be forced to find different ways.”

    [​IMG]Photo: Alex Goodlett/Getty Images

    Every year it happens earlier. Every year it seems to be harder to find candidates.

    So I give you Kyle Shanahan. The 36-year-old is now in his ninth season as an offensive coordinator. He’s served in that role for four different teams. And not only is this Falcons group on pace to be the sixth of those nine units he’s guided into the Top 10 in total offense, and fourth he’s landed in the Top 5, but it’s so good that it may just erase the perception problem its architect has fought for years.

    Matt Ryan, Julio Jones and company are averaging 478.8 yards per game, which is 83.0 yards better than anyone else. Ryan leads the NFL in yards, TDs, passer rating and completion percentage. Jones is leading the league in receiving yards, but the Faclons also have diversified, with five guys registering more than 10 catches. And Atlanta is sixth in rushing offense, with Devonta Freeman averaging 5.9 yards per carry.

    Those are the nuts and bolts. But now, all these years after first becoming a play-caller at the age of 28, a wiser Shanahan knows there’s more to the step he may well take come winter than the fireworks we’ve seen from the Falcons’ offense.

    And that’s why he was a little hesitant to even talk about himself the other night. But yes, he understands that he—like a lot of others who work in the family business and rise to prominence at a young age, in any line of work—hasn’t always been perceived in the most positive light.

    “Everyone has their own opinion,” he said. “I don’t think a lot of people know me. There are misconceptions. I know it’s not all great. But I can’t control it. I’ve gotten better, trying not to worry about it as much. I know I’m a good person. I know I’m honest with people. As a coordinator, things don’t always go as well with every single play. I don’t hide things.”

    So there were the highly publicized issues with McNabb and Griffin in D.C. There were the comments from Roddy White in March. And usually, the buzzword—nepotism—was attached to them.

    Then there’s the other side of it. How Alex Mack followed him to Atlanta. How Grossman trailed him from Houston to Washington. How Kirk Cousins felt about him. How Ryan and Jones have thrived, the same way Schaub and Johnson once did.

    “He’s extremely smart and extremely competitive,” said one high-ranking official from a rival team who knows Shanahan well. “He learned a lot from the Washington and Cleveland experiences. He’s got a good mind for putting players in positions to succeed and using them to their strengths.” One of his former quarterbacks echoed the sentiment, calling Shanahan a “very smart guy. Always has his mind on football.”

    As such, Shanahan’s system has evolved—and in regards to the idea of nepotism, it never really was a mirror image of his dad’s system. He took most of a complex passing game, at least early on, from his time with Jon Gruden in Tampa, which he then melded with famed line coach Alex Gibbs’s run game in Houston.

    It’s grown since, as Shanahan adjusted it for different personnel.

    In Atlanta it’s meant an early focus on the short, precision game that Ryan excels with, and growing options around Jones, which helped set the stage for the sixth-year star’s intergalactic day against Carolina on Sunday.


    “People talk about players fitting a system—that’s overrated,” Shanahan said. “Good players fit everyone’s system, a good player will fit your system. Julio fits any system. Our tight ends, Mohamed Sanu, Matt Ryan, they should fit your system. So what is our system? Yeah, we have outside zone, and play-action and keepers off it.

    “But coaches need to adjust their system. It changes game-to-game, year-to-year. You see New England, if it’s [Tom] Brady, they’re not running [the quarterback] keeper, but you have the other two running bootlegs. You have to match what your guys do, and make it work for them. That’s how you give everyone the best chance.”

    That is the result of experience Shanahan couldn’t have had back in Houston, and it should make him a hot commodity in a few months, so long as the Falcons can keep it going.
     
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    Good article on Shanahan. If the Jets can't hire an experienced HC, I guess Shanahan would be my choice, but I still prefer someone who has been there, done that as a HC. One thing possibly in Shanahan's favor, however, is that he could have learned a lot from his dad about being a HC, both in things that did work and those that didn't.
     
  11. Jets1035

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    Maybe Woody will put us out of our misery and move the team. The NFL is looking to expand to other cites. Why have 2 in NY. Might be the only to end this pattern of loosing and fuckery to the fans for the last 47 years. It feels like it should come to this. Such an empty feeling knowing your team is not going to be a contender year in and year out. Making the playoffs once every 10 years doesn't cut it.
     
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    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Wow. Fantastic depressing post.

    Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
     
  13. HomeoftheJets

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    TBH I wouldn't be surprised if the Falcons fire Quinn and promote Shanahan to HC. Shanahan is the reason the Falcons are winning, not Quinn and his 28th ranked defense.
     
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    The Mexico City Jets has a nice ring to it.
     
  15. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. If Quinn does get fired and Bowles does as well, that will mean that both of the "hot" HC candidates of two years ago (and the Jets considered both) were both flops.
     
  16. HomeoftheJets

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    Then we can build the wall and the Jets can't come back in.
     
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