No firings. Lets see what next year brings. Hopefully we can change out guys like Revis,Fitzpatrick, and about 6 other and bring in some productive players. If we show significant improvement next year stay the course. If we are below .500 and this looks like a rudderless ship then hit the reset button. A few players and not paying the 2 worse players on the team the highest salaries, could turn around this mess. Maybe a coach or 2 as well
I don't think either of them will be fired after this season but Mac needs to be held accountable for all personnel decisions on this team and a lot of his moves can be deemed as questionable. This offseason - draft, FA moves and next season's performance - will all determine his job stability going forward.
Well, I am in no way in favor of firing a GM after 2 seasons, way too early to judge and you have to give them a chance to put their long term vision into place. I still do not think Idzik should have been canned as his hands were tied with Rex, and I do not think Mac should be either. HOWEVER -- I cannot see how you can say he did everything right and how we were ALL HAPPY with his moves. A great number of us, me included, did not like the signing of FItz and thought it was the WRONG move and a lot of us have not liked his draft picks including but not limited to the Hack pick.
It's so funny reading all these 'way too early to judge' posts. Idzik got the 'burn him at the stake' treatment in this very same offseason.
You don't fire Mac now. He's on track to be fired with his decisions but he hasn't shown to be completely incompetent like Bowles has.
I would argue the Devin Smith and Hackenburg draft picks are far worse than the Milliner pick. Hindsight is 20/20 Vernon Gholston was a terrible pick. Dee Milliner was a pick that did not work out. There is a difference.
I was agreeing until you said fire Bowles. Bowles needs to get another year to turn this around. One bad year doesn't justify unemployment. This franchise can't keep hiring and firing coaches at the drop of a hat. Let's give stability a try.
So does Maccagnan deserve to be fired for drafting Devin Smith? Regardless of how it worked out, it filled a need and he was a consensus top 15 pick.
I'm pretty sure Mac will have more authority over the new coach if Bowles gets fired. They were hired at the same time and therefore neither has any seniority over the other.
Yup this. We basically have to keep both for year 3 or else we're the Cleveland Browns. If we have two sub 7 win seasons with the amount of talent on this roster then no one in the league will blame us for firing them. In the meantime, we can hope coordinators get fired and staffs are shaken up that will hopefully change things.
Agree with comments regarding comparison between Idzik and Mac. Not much difference and my concern is the salary cap and moves Mac has put the Jets in giving us hardly any flexibility to make major off season moves. To early to rule out against Hack but boy 2 years of draft has got us very little impact players. Only bright spots were Williams in which fell in our lap and solid late WR pickups in Anderson and Peake.
I hear everything you are saying in regards to stability. I have wanted the very same thing for a long time. However, keeping your finger on the pulse of the team is just as important. What I see is a team in total disarray. Every single unit on the team is faltering in one way or another. The areas that we thought would be problems going into the season are as bad as advertised (QB, OL), the areas we thought would be strengths are horribly underperforming (DL, WR), and then there's those areas that no one saw coming like (secondary). In other words, there area no areas where you can say, "This has gone well". Add to that players that do not seem to want to listen to Todd Bowles. Bowles was hired to be the fix for Rex, a defensive mastermind that is all about discipline and accountability. Well, what we have is a defense that is terrible and defensive players specifically that routinely show up late for meetings or skip them all together. This is NOT what Woody signed up for and I really don't think any fan did either. Looking at the situation in totality, I see a CS that has gone horribly awry in two seasons. Sometimes you must nip a problem in the bud early before it gets far worse. That is what I see happening here. I normally do not advocate firing a HC so soon, but in this case I feel it is not only justified but necessity.............
Because Idzik flat out tanked two seasons to get a coach fired. That to me is unforgivable. At least Mac's trying to win. His drafting worries me and if we're deep in s*it next season I say fire him too, but he'll have an opportunity to rectify some things before then.
Only problem with this is there will be a ton of competition for GM with 30 other teams looking for GMs.
That's so untrue. Idzik tore the roster down and planned to build it back up as I'm sure he told Woody. It was scheduled to essentially be a three year rebuild. He only got two years in when Woody got cold feet because of the billboard bullshit. He saved up all that cap space that would have had to been spent. The team would've been competitive last year because of it with you or I as GM. He sucked at drafting but it appears thus far as though Maccagnan isn't much better.
