I counted from 1973, not 1963, since that was the last year Weeb coached the Jets. Counting from 1963 does make it a little better.
Take it for what its worth Ustadium tweeted :Source #Jets owner Woody Johnson is "extremely" frustrated and a major overhaul may follow, including the firing of HC Todd Bowles
In terms of whether to blow this up, the first decision that must be made is whether to bring back Bowles for year 3. I am against that, BUT if that's what they decide to do, we have to pick up a veteran QB and try to win next season. Blowing it up also sometimes sounds better in concept than reality. There is no great QB prospect in the 2017 draft. Petty and Hackenberg have shown nothing to date. You don't go into 2017 and play a young QB just to play him. I can only accept 2017 as a rebuild if the organization believes they have an absolute star young QB who needs a season for development. I don't think we have that player on the roster and I don't think we can get him in this draft. From that perspective, I am not sure I can buy into blowing the whole thing up just to blow it up. Make a play for Romo, shore up the OL and secondary, and you could compete for a playoff spot in 2017. Is 3-13 next season with a mediocre young QB at the helm all season honestly preferable?
The more I think about it, the more I think Todd Bowles isn't the problem. The problem is that the Jets have a bunch of selfish, conceited players on this team. The problem is being made clear at this point, because unlike Rex Ryan, Todd Bowles isn't catering to these jerks. That doesn't mean he's doing a bang-up job as HC, just that I think making him the scapegoat for this cluster of a team would be a grave disservice to us as fans, and particularly to whatever unlucky soul has to replace him. Personally, I'm fine with replacing him or keeping him. I don't think we're winning jack next year, either way.
If Bowles is back, why do we have to pick up a veteran QB? Sorry, but that makes no sense to me. We've tried that and it doesn't work. We have two young QBs on the roster who need developing, practice reps and they need to see the field. Aside from bringing Bowles back, the absolutely worst thing we could do is to bring in a veteran QB to start and not develop Petty and Hack. Your reasoning is flawed. Petty has shown nothing because he was a project last season and there was never any plan to play him. This season was supposed to be yet another redshirt year. Fitz was the starter and Geno the backup. That plan got blown to hell when Fitz sucked and Geno got hurt. In case you've forgotten, Petty was injured in preseason and missed about 2 months of practice. He wouldn't have gotten a lot of reps anyway, but he would have had the scout team reps, so it definitely would have helped. Most young QBs take some time and need to play to develop. It takes time and reps to build chemistry and timing with their receivers, and for their OL to get used to their cadence and trust them. Similarly, Hack was never supposed to play this season. This was to be a redshirt season. They knew coming in that he needed to overhaul his mechanics. Thus, he couldn't show anything this season, and may not be ready to next season. You don't keep doing the same stupid stuff and hope the results differ. That's one of the definitions of insanity. There is zero reason to bring in an older veteran QB unless he's only going to function as a mentor and hold the clipboard. If they want to sign a younger veteran QB like Glennon to compete with Petty and Hack, that's one thing. Bringing in an older vet QB is another. That would just waste next season. This team is not going anywhere next season. They still have a ton of holes, and they have other younger players that need to be developed or replaced. The only way the Jets will know what they need to do with those younger players is to play those younger players. Players can only learn so much by standing on the sidelines and watching film. I believe that most fans would much rather see the team commit to a true rebuild and have a roster full of younger players with potential, rather than bringing in more old, over-the-hill vets who aren't going to be much better and/or get us to the playoffs.
Its a twitter account which was founded by a Jet fan named Nick Spano if I'm not mistaken. To be honest, I don't think its credible but it doesn't take a genius to come to the conclusion that Woody Johnson is pissed and Bowles may be canned. You don't have a stadium half empty, ticket prices for as long as $5, and a clearly uninspired team getting their ass beat on nationally televised MNF and not get canned
I would think most people's definition of "blowing up" the Jets means at a minimum firing Bowles and possibly Maccagnan, and getting rid of the guys who didn't perform and allowing younger guys to play. I'm for blowing them up, and that mean Bowles needs to go. Despite the mistakes he's made in game management and formations and game plans, I might be willing to give him another year, but what cinched his firing for me was his stubborn refusal to play Fitz in spite of his problems, and in doing that didn't allow Petty to show us what he's got - a double failure. As for signing a veteran QB, why? There is no one available who could make this team into a contender. MAYBE, MAYBE, a vet QB MIGHT get them to back into the playoffs and then exit quickly, but the price paid would be stunting our young QBs and not knowing whether they can be the future or not. That's way too big a price to pay IMO. I would rather they try to sign Smith as insurance at a reduced salary if he's willing, or sign someone else to be an emergency starter if needed, but we need to see now, finally, what Petty and/or Hack can do. And I do think that there will be some better HC candidates out there, and if the right person were available to replace Maccagnan that would have to be considered, but I wold rather let him have a chance to hire his own HC and see what happens then. I do think hiring a VP pr Pres. in charge of Football Operations, who really knows the NFL, someone like Coughlin, or Holmgren, who can tell Woody to back off and who might finally be able to build a winning mindset in the Jets, because at the root, that's the real problem and new HC or a QB isn't going to fix that,although they could make a difference.
thats a pretty crazy list, ryan got plenty of time to screw things up mangina was a short timer but i wasnt mad when he got shown the door, and he hasnt done shit since edwards felt like he was here 6 years, i hated him as our coach. he proved he could turn a winner into a 4-12 team in kc groh never really got a chance but he hasnt done anything since, had plenty of hard times in college. i think he knew he was in over his head. parcells should have stayed a few more years. kotite... fuck that dude carroll, he wasnt ready, he could have become something if we stuck with him but he definitely wasnt ready and said he learned alot here and in ne walton.... the ship had sailed. michaels.... ehh i was young. holtz.... thank god he sucked or notre dame may never have won winner... i wasnt even a gleam in the old mans eye
Quentin Coples Dee Milliner Geno Smith Calvin Pryor Jace Amaro Devin Smith Christian Hackenberg Blowing premium draft picks is the problem
This is my constant argument against tanking. A high first round bust pick arguably hurts us more than a mid first round bust pick.
