Bryce Petty's Brett Favre-like play style?

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  1. hwismer

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    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/12/jets_learning_to_deal_with_bryce_pettys_favre-like.html

    By Connor Hughes
    FLORHAM PARK -- It was both Bryce Petty's best play, and worst throw.
    With the Jets near midfield in overtime against the 49ers on Sunday, Petty set up under center. Points, any points, would result in a victory. So the play call was rather conservative: Play-action, five-step drop.

    But Petty instantly felt pressure. He rolled out, reached the sidelined, pivoted, and threw across his body to wideout Robby Anderson with three defenders in the area.

    It was everything a quarterback shouldn't do. But Anderson made the grab for a 26-yard gain. The Jets won three plays later.

    "No, no, no!" said offensive coordinator Chan Gailey Wednesday when recalling the pass. "Then you just say, 'great play.'"

    With Petty, a fourth-round pick in last year's draft, now the Jets' starting quarterback, the team is learning to deal with his sometimes reckless play style. Ever since his high school days, Petty has resembled Brett Favre between the lines.

    No play is ever over. No hole is ever too tight. If there's a chance he can make something out of nothing, Petty is going to give it a go.

    On Sunday, it worked. Other times, it doesn't.

    "They'll say [don't do it] if it doesn't work," Petty said by his locker Wednesday. "If it works? Great. That's how we drew it up. If it doesn't? Let's not try to do that anymore.

    "I don't like to use the word gamble, but it's how I've always played. When a play breaks down, I don't like giving up on plays."

    And the Jets love that about their young quarterback. Which is what makes working with him a little challenging at times. Do they want him to throw into double and triple coverage? No. Do they want him rolling out and tossing up prayers across his body? Not really.

    But they don't want to take away something they can't coach: Playmaking ability

    "There's always that fine line," Gailey said. "You don't want to do that. The aggressiveness to say, 'Hey, we're going to make a play here.' You don't want to take that away and make him too conservative.

    "There's a fine line you walk. You just try to get him to understand to make good decisions. You're playing percentages."

    Petty has just two starts under his belt. Barring injury, he'll add three more before the season's over. Each game, the Jets are working with him to get better.

    Against the 49ers, Petty took six sacks. Some were due to protection breakdowns, others because he was holding the ball too long. He said he was overthinking things and trying to "confirm too much," instead of trusting his gut and letting it fly.

    For now, those blunders are what concern the Jets.

    The occasional gunslinger moment? No worries there. The Jets are more than willing to take the good with the bad ... as long as there is still some good.

    "You have to make decisions about making plays," Gailey said. "He's throwing it where [receivers] have a chance to make a play, where our guys have a chance to make a play, where our guys have a chance to make a play. There are times when it works out. There are times when it doesn't.

    "The guys it works out most for usually stay. Guys that it doesn't work out for don't stay."
     
  2. fansince90

    fansince90 Well-Known Member

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    Play design would reduce a lot of gambling. How often are our receivers wide open? I watch some teams and they have plays where there is not a cb within 5 yards of their receivers. ..our receivers always seem to need to make miraculous catches with tight coverage so therefore our qb has to be a risk taker.
     
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    "But they don't want to take away something they can't coach: Playmaking ability."

    This is where the anal-retentiveness of football coaches becomes a problem. I know I'm old "Old School", but I hate that coaches call the plays. I still think the guy on the field, seeing things up close knows what will work better than a guy on the sideline or up in the box. I can see coaches making calls for young QBs, but the QB should always have the option to override it.Okay, start the catcalls and derision!

    Petty may wind up making a lot more mistakes by forcing things with his "gambling", and if so, he's going to lose his job. But if he can learn from those mistakes and cut down on them, he may make it to the next level where the great ones get because of their "never quit, gambling" mentality. So far, I like what I see, but ask me after he throws 6 picks and costs them games more than winning them.
     
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  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Hmm. Looks like a certain beat-writer has been reading the tunes Cman has been singing for quite a while now.
     
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    I want to see him keeping the "gun-slinger" attitude. It disrupts the defense. These actions were not shown in the film study to any extent., because they only happened in the 2nd half of the SF game. Yes, there may be an interception or two, but with luck they won't be pick 6's.
    It will add to his growth and confidence.
     
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    LOL... Yeah it sure looks that way doesn't it...:D
     
  7. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    Petty assessment:

    What he didn't do:

    Leave no doubt that he can play QB in the NFL
    Didn't "light up" the second worse team in the NFL

    What he did do:

    Won an NFL game
    Lead a comeback victory
    Won a game in OT
    Won a game on the West Coast

    Many more positives, so GO BRYCE!
     
  8. GWjet

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    I like that he drove the team on our last 3 drives and got points. Fitz always found a way to throw that game ending int when trying to lead a come back
     
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    picking and choosing when to be aggressive will be where Petty excels in this league. Take what the defense gives you
     
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    He's undefeated on the West Coast, how many Jets QBs can say that?
     
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    This right here, I felt better with Petty in the 4th/OT than I have at any point with Fitzpatrick at the helm. That may change in time, but for the moment it's the truth.
     
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    Gunslinger? Is that what Geno was trying against Buffalo when he threw all those picks?

    Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
     
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    I think we are missing the most beautiful and most important point of all. Ill advised or not, he was actually able to make that very difficult throw on the run and with sufficient accuracy. Fitz could not, ever. In many, many last minute desperation opportunities that is exactly what you have to do, we have seen it with Brady, Rodgers, and all the great ones.
    I for one am sick and tired of seeing a QB throw shit little outlet passes way short of the first line marker on freaking third or worst even fourth down.
    He will learn and be more careful, that you can do. But without the arm and accuracy you never, ever beat the better coached teams.
    Keep it up Petty, take calculated chances when necessary, fuck the boring go nowhere dinks. Oh by the way, After the last start, the cry we will loose the vets if Petty starts has proven to be outer bullshit.
     
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    Yeah...you don't hear Marshall lamenting Fitz's benching. He wasn't even targeted much at all.

    Fitz is done here I would imagine.
     
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    Yes, the ability to "make something out of nothing" is a hallmark of the good QBs. Too soon to know if he'll be good, let alone great, but Fitz or Geno were never going to be, so it was ridiculous that Bowles kept putting them in Petty's way. It just reinforces my belief that Bowles doesn't know what he's doing and needs to go away.

    But back to Petty...he's going to make mistakes, some games a lot of them, but so did all the best QBs. He may even need to get benched now and then to see things from a different perspective, but I would keep going back to him because I think eventually he's going to blossom. I've seen nor heard nothing yet that disproves this assessment. He may well have a tough game against the Fins, but that will be a good lesson for him, and I'm confident he'll learn from it and not shrink from it.
     
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    I think the last Jet victory on the WC was in 2009, the famous Sanchez "hotdog" game in Oakland. The year before, the "Favre" Jets played 4 on the WC and lost them all. The WC has not been kind to the Jets, so this win is significant.
     
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    I'm pretty sure after one game against one of the shittiest teams in the NFL is a great time to compare a kid to a first ballot Hall of Famer ;)
     
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    Don't forget the two point conversion.
     
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    Skimmed the article. The only thing that jumped off the page at me was, "No hole is ever too tight."


    That's a statement I can get behind.
     
  20. donkey

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    Was that when we did them to nil? You're right about significance, or at least potentially.
     

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