Trade Deadline - Realistic Targets for the Jets and who we may move

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  1. footballfundamentals

    footballfundamentals Well-Known Member

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    At least Joe has a resume....
     
  2. MDJets

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    Build draft picks in order to develop Darnold
     
  3. rockyusmc2003

    rockyusmc2003 Well-Known Member

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    Gase have any value on the street?
     
  4. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    1. Not a fan of using draft capital for 1 year rental. Unless Jets can lock up Jackson for long term at a reasonable deal, he's no-no.
    2. Trufant and Parker: No.
    3. I wouldn't mind moving Leo, but he won't go high. 3rd and 5th maybe.
    4. Robby - I am torn. If Jets get 2nd for him, they should move. Not for anything lower. (Sanu just went at 2nd. Robby isn't fielding 1st)
    5. I am not against using next year as a spike year. That means just cutting Tru and Osemele this spring. (And all other heavy baggage for that matter) Stench of MacCagnan can't be offloaded fast enough.
     
  5. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    1) he's under contract for 2020 as well. it's not just this year and we can resign him after that or even extend him before a trade. I wouldn't do a 1 year rental either, not at 1-5
    2) parker is better then bellamy, DT, and berrios don't you agree? so why not? trufant is better then roberts and johnson and both will be gone in 2020 so why not? trufant allows us to go into the offseason with at least 1 starting quality CB on the roster. as it stands now our top 3 will all be gone (poole is on a 1 year deal and tru/rob likely cut for cap space/poor performance) leaving us with austin only a 6th round rookie who hasn't played a down yet due to injury. hairston is also a FA after this season. parker is under contract for 2020 and at worse case a WR4 for us which is bellamy right now and that assumes we add another starter and keep robby. the more legit WRs we can find the better
    3) 3rd and 5th is fine. we'll get a 3rd comp pick in 2021 for him most likely. a 3rd in 2020 is better. If we can get a 3rd alone it makes sense anything better is just gravy
    4) robby isn't getting a 1 but sanu was a fluke and isn't worth a 2. neither is robby right now. sanders got a 3rd and 5th but is older. a 3rd for robby is probably his value but that only hurts darnold and an already poor offense. doesn't make any sense IMO to move him
    5) yeah we need to cut some dead weight for sure. those 2 are gone. add roberts to the list. I like avery but he's gone as well. cost too much and hewitt/cashman have shown to be good enough it's worth saving the money to spend elsewhere.
     
  6. grkmanga31

    grkmanga31 Well-Known Member

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    Of course. I mean if there is an opportunity to improve I'd take it, but would need to be a young player - and someone Jets have contractual control over for at least 1-2 seasons, otherwise it wouldn't be worth while.

    So generally, I agree, but would prefer to be strictly sellers.

    This team needs a huge infusion of young players and get rid of underperforming players with bloated contracts (I feel like a broken record at this point because I feel like I've said this for like a decade).

    Best chance at accomplishing the above is to accumulate as much draft capital as possible and build through the draft. You then have young players who have to prove themselves.
     
  7. PulseJet

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    That sounds plausible. 49ers or the Chiefs would need someone like Bell to make a run. For the Jets he is just a luxury until they build up their o-line. I hate it, because Bell has been a great Jet in the brief time he has been here.
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Just because the execution was terrible by that regime doesn't mean the strategy was wrong. Your strategy of trading all these mid round picks for guys with a year and a half of control will leave us in the same position we were after the two AFC Championship games.

    From 2007-2011 look at all of the missing second through fifth round picks that we traded away to build a short term winner. And at that point it even made a lot more sense because we have a core of DBrick, Mangold, Revis, and David Harris that were all Pro Bowl players.

    Successful franchises replenish through the draft and keep those players. Not deal a bunch of mid round picks for players at the end of their rookie deals that have underperformed. We just need a GM and scouting department to go into two consecutive drafts and pull 5 starters and 8 team contributors to rebuild it. It's not unheard of. Look at the Colts.
     
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  9. jets_fan

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    Bell has been a great Jet while he's been here, but they might as well trade him if they can get something for him. This team isn't going to be competitive until well after Bell is on the decline, so I don't see much sense in wasting his time or ours while we wait for the rest of the team (and the coaching staff) to develop a clue about what it is exactly they're supposed to be doing.
     
  10. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    No the difference in those years was 1 we had no QB and 2 we used the picks to trade for old players at the end of their career who would only give us a year or 2. The people i'm picking can be here for the next 5 years. it's why I didn't pick people like chris harris jr or AJ green.
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Right. Instead you picked a corner with two picks in three years and a receiver yet to surpass 60 catches in a season as well as a corner on the worst defense in the NFL that will be thirty by the time the 2020 season starts.

    Two low achieving players and a stop gap at corner that will likely start his decline. No thanks.

    I'd have to look at advanced stats for Jackson but I know Dre Kirkpatrick has one of the lowest completion percentages against in the past couple years. The fact that Jackson has two interceptions in three years tells me he gets picked on a ton without much results..
     
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  12. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Picked him clean and played his previous team already :rolleyes:
     
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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    A rich Jets fan could go up to a million if they could find the right hitman friendly Italian.
     
  14. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    and revis had 0 INTs while posting up the best season a CB ever had. what is your point?

    You need some foresight and actual well thought out planning not crazy fan reaction nonsense
     
  15. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    And you need to stop being a prick when people disagree with you. Where does your arrogance come from? Every post that disagrees with your thoughts are dismissed as people who know nothing. That's what a message before is for. Discussion.

    Go take a look back some years. I was right about Trumaine Johnson and signing Revis the second time from the Pats. Ive been banging the Leonard Williams is overrated drum for multiple years before I left and came back. I know a thing or two.

    If William Jackson is a great corner, Cincinnati has no reason to trade him with two years of control. He's supposedly been regressing from his rookie year. Teams do not deal young players with a couple years under their control. What Miami did is unprecedented.

    But good idea. Let's trade away assets for a shitty receiver and a Falcons corner who's leaving his prime.
     
  16. macbk

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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    I fucking hate Gase
     
  18. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    i'll be pretty pissed if we trade robby. he's the best deep threat the jets have had since santana moss and we finally have a QB who can throw the deep ball. This is more on JD then gase though
     
  19. jilozzo

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    of course in typical fashion the jets can't even make a competitive trade and end up "giving" away a starter or 2 for a couple 6 rounders.

    oh the pain.
     
  20. red75bronco

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    Robbie Anderson stinks.
     

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