Before looking at All-22, the primary thought that comes to me is the breathtaking lack of experience. This was going to be a rough start for the entire team. We know they are young, but when you think of it in terms of cumulative experience... I can't even think of another NFL team in recent memory with nearly as many rookie contributors in a Week 1 Game. Throw in the 2nd year players and it's crazy. Over half the 53 Man Roster going into today's game has completed 2 NFL seasons maximum, much less gotten significant playing time. Compare: Jets (29) Total, 14 Starting Bills (19) Total, 5 Starting Rookies on 53 Man Roster: 12 QB (Zach Wilson) OG (Alijah Vera-Tucker) RB (Michael Carter) WR (Elijah Moore) DT (Jonathan Marshall) LB (Jamien Sherwood) LB (Hamsah Nasirildeen) CB (Michael Carter II) CB (Jason Pinnock) CB (Brandin Echols) CB (Isaiah Dunn) K (Matt Amendola) Year 2 on 53 Man Roster: 7 OT (Mekhi Becton) LB (La'Mical Perine) WR (Denzel Mims) DE (Bryce Huff) CB (Bryce Hall) CB (Javelin Guidry) P (Braden Mann) Year 3 on 53 Man Roster: 10 OT (Chuma Edoga) RB (Ty Johnson) WR (Jeff Smith) TE (Trevon Wesco) DT (Quinnen Williams) DE (Tim Ward) LB (Quincy Williams) LB (Blake Cashman) LB (Del'Shawn Phillips) S (Sheldrick Redwine) Every position group is packed with inexperienced players who are just entering their 3rd season at best. QB: 1/2 (50%) OL: 3/8 (38%) RB: 3/5 (60%) WR: 3/6 (50%) TE: 1/4 (25%) DL: 4/9 (44%) LB: 5/6 (83%) DB: 7/11 (64%) ST: 2/3 (67%) Considering the Jets have 7 Draft Picks in the top 4 Rounds this coming year, I doubt those percentages will change much. The Jets are financially committed to a grand total of 4 players who will be at least 4th year vets in 2022: -Corey Davis -Carl Lawson -Quinnen Williams -CJ Mosley They will have a few more notable under contract with no commitment, meaning who knows if they will be here: -Sheldon Rankins -Shaq Lawson -George Fant -Connor McGovern -Greg Van Roten When people say it's a multi year process, this is why. We're all going to need a little patience this season. This is basically extended training for guys like Wilson, Becton, Vera-Tucker, Moore, Mims, Williams. And it is basically a season long tryout for guys like Nasirildeen, Sherwood, Echols, Ashtyn Davis, etc.
This is a true rebuild through the draft - gonna take a while. JD meant it when he said it though ..... My hope for 2021 is to see competitive games and to watch Zack the team grow and move into a positive direction going forward rather than drawing up mock drafts in October.
Let's not forget our rookie play caller. He had a rough start and bounced back nicely but he looked like a rookie play caller. His job is much harder with a rookie QB and young receiver's but he did not do much to help in the first half. I am not sure what we expected. We have the youngest starters in the NFL that played little in the preseason. We were in this game to the very end with a small chance to win. This was a successful week one. To be calling for JD's head is ignorant after week 1. To be calling for the coaches head is just plain stupid. It is ok to criticize, the coaches made some mistakes. The o-line needs to be coached better. The offense of rythmn was bad early. I am optimistic on to week 2.
Of course it is, but people have been skeptical about Douglas since he got here while others have heralded him as the next Ozzie Newsome. He's done a great job with trades, hasn't overpaid drastically on players, but his drafting remains a lot to be desired. We've already cut two players from the 2019 class, and we have two skill position players from it that are struggling to get on the field in what was lauded as a fantastic class for it.
I might have to shell out the money for the All-22 this year (opted against it the past couple years because Gase gonna Gase) because I'm very curious as to if receivers are getting open and being missed due to rookie QB/too much pressure, if they're getting open because of scheme or talent and what the backend play design looks like. What I did like about Wilson was that it looks like he was willing to take the 4-5 yard stick route and out routes when they were open. I figured he, like many young quarterbacks, would be looking for the 21-point play at all times.
This is why hording picks is not always the best way to build . You need players not picks because you never know how the pick will pan out. Constant transition is what keeps team on the bottom. Wanting to fire everybody after one game or if a pick is not the pick you would make is asinine. His second draft class seems much better than the first I wonder if that has anything to do with the revamped scouting department? Rome was not built in a day and this org needed to be rebuilt from the roots. I will give JD at least 2 more draft classes before calling for his head. We are playing the with youngest team in the NFL.
I think this coming offseason will be what determines JD’s fate with the Jets. He will have four picks most likely within the top 40-50. The OL needs more talent and so does the defense especially EDGE/LB. It’s too early to tell with the CBs - that position is full of a bunch of rookies now. After yesterday I rank the Jets needs in order as: OL Edge LB RB TE/CB tie Of course as the season goes on this could change. I figured CB would be a major need but after the play of the rookies yesterday maybe it won’t be. And even if CB need edges its way back would JD turn to the draft considering how young the position already is? Maybe that becomes a FA move. This season and the coming offseason is going to be very interesting .....
I disagree that the coming offseason will determine JD's fate with the Jets. He's done more than enough good already to have earned a 2nd contract imo. Yes, the OL needs more talent, and I believe it will get it. Nothing has been permanent or long-term fix yet except for hopefully Becton and AVT. McGovern was a potential long-term fix, but unless his play improves, he should be replaced. GVR was totally a short- term stop gap. I think Fant and Moses were potentially somewhat long term fixes, but their contracts were basically only as short-term stop gaps. JD knew that it was going to take time to build the OL via the draft. I believe that he could sign an OL or two if there are any he likes at a reasonable price next offseason, but like usual, there may not be, so he may be forced to draft a couple of OL. I see the Jets' needs in a different order of priority. Edge (2) - This will definitely be a high priority. There are no guarantees that Carl Lawson will be the same player. Even if he is, we need a great starter opposite him. OL (2) - Whether OL is a high priority will depend upon what happens the rest of the year with the OL. If it gels and plays at a high level for most of the season, then McGovern, GVR, Fant and Moses could all be back. If not, one or more will likely be gone and replaced most likely with draft picks, and possibly a depth OL from FA. TE (2) - This is a key position in the Shanahan system. If LaFleur hopes to run that system, then the Jets need two quality TEs who have good speed, who are good receivers and blockers. Kroft would be OK as our #3 TE, but we need two better ones. One could be added via FA, but both may need to be added via the draft. LB (1) - More than likely, JD will look to add at least one, maybe two LBs. It just all depends upon how Mosely, Sherwood and Nasirildeen play. It will be interesting to see if they bring Davis back. I can't remember if he's gone for the season or is just on short-term IR. If he can come back, that might determine whether he is re-signed following this season. I'd be surprised if they can add a starter via FA, so if they feel the need to add a starting LB for next season, then it probably will come via the draft and in the 2nd or 3rd round. Since contractually we're stuck with Mosely at a high cap figure, we'd better hope he proves this season that he can still play at a very high level. CB (1) - This need could move up to the #2 or #3 position, if the #2 CB spot struggles during the season of if Hall struggles. I think our slot/nickel CB spot is nailed down with Carter and Guidry. There could be a few quality CBs available in FA. If so, hopefully, JD will sign one, and leave our draft picks to address other needs. Better still, would be for Hall and Echols (or Pinnock or Dunn) to prove to be a quality #1 and #2 CB. RB (1) - I would be surprised if Coleman is back, but think Carter and Johnson will be. The jury remains out on Perine and Adams. I think JD will look to add a RB in the 4th or 5th round in next year's draft. RB is not a high priority early draft pick in this offense. FB factors in there as well. It's possible that they might seek to get Perine to bulk up a little and use him as a FB, but I imagine that via FA, trade or draft, the Jets will look to upgrade the FB position for next season. S - If Maye continues to play like he did yesterday, he probably will be back. I doubt that Joyner will be. Hopefully once Davis gets healthy, he shows that he deserves to be on the field with Maye. If not, then the Jets could look to draft a LB and move one of Sherwood/Nasirildeen back to S or draft a S.
We only signed Joyner for one year and he is already out for the year so yeah, I don't think he's coming back. RIP Joyner, we hardly knew ya.
Well let’s be fair and remember that his first ever draft was the COVID draft. I understand what you’re saying but it’s easy to forget that all he has had the COVID draft and now a class of players who have had 1 game to show their stuff.
Not untrue, but he's made some questionable decisions unrelated to the Covid draft (Winters released, Alex Lewis trade, Robbie Anderson for Perriman, Ryan Kalil, Frank Gore, etc.). And as of now, we've walked away with a receiver who looks like a dud (although it could change) in the second best (arguably best?) receiver class this decade.
Yeah I couldn't help myself, I subscribed to it for the first time in a few years. Now I just have to find the time to use it.
Problem is that list of positions where we need help has been some order of those same positions for years now (even before JD). I still trust JD and I'm being patient but at some point want to see SOME progress. We have 2 first Rd picks on the line. Gotta give them time but you don't expect to see the same garbage we've been watching for years.
I agree. I trust JD and the plan he set forth when he became the GM. He's going about building the team, the Ozzie Newsome way. I too want them to be competitive but honestly, it's a new era and I'm going along for the ride. But this time around it's different. In Douglas I Trust! (but he does need to do something about the OL)
