I don't think it's vindictive. To me it's more beyond his current skillset. Listening to him in pressers, he's just an Xs & Os guy. Scheme, play-calling... check. Plugging talent into scheme, developing talent, human interaction, teaching... he needs someone to coach him. Of course, we'll see how it goes after the Bye, if he's being coached properly.
Moore missed 6 games his rookie year and had a 55% catch rate. He went over 100 yards in one game. He played 3 games with Flacco the year and he didn't crack 50 yards in any of them. It's not like we are burying Tyreek Hill on the bench.
I'm sure there are reasons that we don't know about. Maybe the staff wanted to test out GW and learn about his skills and abilities. Maybe there are other reasons. We just don't know.
He seemed to fit the scheme well enough last year, enough for everybody to be excited about him for this one, barring his injury troubles, of course.
Come on man, don't be a revisionist. Everybody was excited to see what this kid could do moving forward after his performances last season, don't confuse him asking for a trade and what we all thought was a potential #1 WR. then we drafted Wilson and everybody thought we had locked WR 1 and 2 down for years to come. If you had objected to him last season then feel free to point me to these posts, it will be an interesting read. Finally, I don't think anybody was calling him Tyreek Hill but the guy is good enough to be our #2 WR without a shadow of a doubt then again maybe it was just Mike White that made him
And here's Michael Nania on jetsxfactor, using the "finally," with a statistical anaysis for the move for Moore (& GW). It's astounding to me, that it's taken so long, for the CS, to get it right -------> https://jetsxfactor.com/2022/11/10/ny-jets-garrett-wilson-new-role/
With all due respect, you are overreacting. While Nania makes good points about what is going on now when the season began Moore had a history where his production last year was much higher per route run from the outside compared to routes run form the slot. Wilson was a rookie who played almost exclusively in the slot in college and was still adapting and learning a pro offense. Asking a raw unproven rookie WR to play outside form game one is not very smart way to develop a WR. Moore was a much more proven WR who had great success from the outside last year. It made no sense at all to play Moore in the slot. Wilson's play along with, Wilson's athleticism being able to high point balls and Wilson's development has allowed him to move to the outside while Moore's regression has made the slot a friendlier place where his mistakes can be limited. To say this should have been done earlier is not only hindsight but a large overreaction.
I thought he was small and injury prone last year. I didn't think he was a #1. He has nice moves and can be a good receiver in this league. But I think the revisionist history is thinking he was great last year. He was in one game.
He would only ever be a #1 on a team as void of receiving talent as the 2021 Jets. In light of that he would be better as a slot receiver more often than not, but again, I think they ought to be mixing and matching these guys and using them in different roles.
We have no idea if Elijah Moore can be a no.1 wide receiver in this league. He played half the season last year and this year he's only used as someone who goes in motion before the snap. They don't throw to him
in a team with a QB not doing the business what are the WR's meant to do? Where did I say he was great last year? Nobody was saying anything about this guy's skillset until he put in a trade request, that is the revisionist part. He showed us enough last season that if Wilson grew as a QB we would have a good player with the potential to be a WR1 now a WR2 with Wilson2.0 as the #1WR, now we have a player pissed off about getting no targets, not even being spotted on plays that have broken down when wide open, I don't like his attitude or his trade request but I understand it. I would have traded him but only for a minimum round 2 pick.
No overreaction. I'm not interested in last season. Last season, who were the receivers? TEs? They did what they did, with the talent they had then. I'm interested in the talent available this season. And it's taken half the season, for the CS to wake up, look at the talent, & even talk about utilizing that talent, emphasizing their strengths, rather than whatever imaginary criteria they've used. In the process, they alienated 2 young, talented WRs. Yes, finally! I was expecting to see the players available to them, integrated into the O during TC, like teams tend to do, when they have talent.
Why would you move a rookie WR who has never played on the outside, who is just learning the playbook to the outside when Moore demonstrated all of last year he was much more effective on the outside? That is not how you develop a WR in fact it would be coaching malpractice. You ease him in with less responsibility while giving him some familiarity. It was only when Wilson showed improvement, showed development was able to take on a bigger role. Guess what the coaching decisions to make it easier on Wilson by playing him in the slot worked and has paid dividends in his development. Coincidentally at the same time Moore showed regression. Yes, I am sorry it was a huge overreaction. Nania who you cite as a source was a huge fan of keeping Moore on the outside to start the season. It was only recently due to Moore's struggles and Wilson's ability to high point balls that he advocated Wilson play outside. Ultimately the question of when Moore is able to handle the responsibility of playing outside and has developed and learned enough to play the outside is a subjective question. One which only the coaching staff is in a position to judge. To make blanket statements that you know better than the CS again is a statement I think we can all agree is completely lacking in merit.
He played 11 games last year so unless it was a 22 games season He played more than half of it. He also had 21 targets in the first 3 games this year and he managed to catch 12 of them. The 4th game with Wilson he put up a season best 53 yards on 4 targets. Facts matter.
He played 3 games with Flacco at the beginning of the season and couldn't crack 50 yards. That's not in Wilson. His best game this year was Wilson's first game back. At the end of the day, Wilson has a lot of options when it comes to distributing the ball. If the team is winning I don't give a shit who is catching the ball.
Absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed. The QB comment was in reply to last season and now you swing it to Flacco at the start of this season. The guy has talent, that was the conversation, to be afforded no looks is just flat out wrong that was the other part of the conversation. Don't twist and turn like others do on here, it isn't a good way to converse. Gonna leave it now.
I might be wrong, since we really don’t know the full story, but I see no real good reason to at least begin to use Moore on plays similar to Berrios. I also suspect part of the problem is that current play book has mostly Wilson and or Davis as first read, TE second. At this point short of a broken play Zach does not go beyond the first two reads.
This is just a bunch of drama for nothing, and you guys will see when Elijah has his Rod Tidwell moment a week from Sunday.
I for one sure hope so. I like him and believe he can be a real contributor. I hope they spend the next week and a half scheming a half dozen unexpected plays BB has never seen before. It’s time to take control of our destiny.
