One Pennington question

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  1. A.C.E.S

    A.C.E.S New Member

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    We all know hes one good QB. There is one question, is he a SUPERBOWL QB ? If he isn't we should just start Clemmens to prepare him for the next 2-3 years. IMO Pennington is a winning QB and he got what it takes to win in the NFL. Does anyone understand what I'm trying to say ?
     
  2. gustoonarmy

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    What you are saying is can he win big games? I would have to answear NO , having said that , this season we have all seen a differnt side of Chad. The stats don't lie either with his completin and accuracy ratings amongst the best in the NFL.
    A better question would be , if Chad had played for the Pats would they have won 3 superbowls , the answear is still NO.
     
  3. Exit 117

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    He isn't capable of leading a team to the Super Bowl. He'd need a good supporting cast. Like, that bastard Brady for example, was able to win 3 Super Bowls with mostly unimpressive talent surrounding him on offense. Pennington could win games with those same players, but probably never win a Super Bowl with them. If he had a high powered offense, maybe like last year's Colts with a healthy Stokley and with Edgerrin James, maybe he could do it. Not saying he is better than Manning, just saying he'd need a strong supporting cast like that one.
     
  4. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    That is really unfair. Chad was 3 missed FG's away from going to the AFC Championship Game in 2004. He played really well in the 1st half of the Oakland game in 2002 before everything came unraveled. And this year against NE he played well too.
     
  5. A.C.E.S

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    Thats a preety good question, but I would have to say YES. There defense was unbeliveable. So here is another question, Should we bench him ? If hes not going to win a superbowl with us why start him ?
     
  6. jetbugga

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    penny is capable of taking the jets to the superbowl. with the current state of the jets, obviously he cannot do it alone. vick, mannings, palmer can't do it either.
     
  7. Kentucky Jet

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    How many come-from-behind victories has CHAD won for us when we were 20 + points down? For such a SMART QB, why has he thrown so many INTS that have killed off rallies. Start with the year VINNY was hurt and HERM put CHAD in the PHILLY game with us leading 17 to 6. we managed to lose that game! Since 2002 and OAKLAND( playoffs) how many great defenses has he been able to beat? Great QBs are said to elevate the talent surrounding him. Why then does CHAD absolutely require a much better supporting cast in order for him to POSSIBLY win a SB? First he ought to start by winning the division! He has NOT been close to it yet. And wqhile he has been decent, BRADY with a team not much more talent laden then ours wins SUPER BOWLS!
     
  8. kevin68

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    I think he could, but he needs lot of support from the other players. I think when guys like Dilfer and Johnson can Win a SB, Chad is capable of doing the same.Of course the Jets would need a really dominant D.
     
  9. ThunderbirdJet

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    I'd say he is good enough, but the Jets would have to have a near dominant running game and a top ten defense. A good running game would force the safeties to play up, and help Pennington's exceptional play action ability to open things up. His inabilty to stretch the field isn't a small problem, it limits the offense pretty significantly. He can throw a ball 25 to 30 yards with enough zip on it, but beyond that, all he can do is loft it up there and hope a WR can run under it.

    I was thinking Clemens would get at least 4 starts this year, and be the starter in 2007 for a serious playoff run in 2008. This year's success put Clemens' development on the back burner, and I'm not sure that's the best thing for this team going forward.

    Having said all that, I still think we would need a fast WR for Clemens to throw deep to sometime in the near future. I love Pennington as much as anyone, but no, I'm not at all convinced he'll take us to the promised land.
     
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    <Insert one big $#!% image of a dead horse here>

    /beat horse

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  11. The Dark Knight

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    The NFL isn't made for one person to lead a team to the Super Bowl by himself.

    Pennington can lead a group of talented players to the Super Bowl though.

    With a good defense to back up a good offense.

    That comparison is insulting. Chad is alot better than those QB's.
     
  12. A.C.E.S

    A.C.E.S New Member

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    Do you think Tom Brady needs that ?

    HELL NO
     
  13. kevin68

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    But unfortunately is Brady better than Chad. You can't compare him to Brady. Brady is a class by himself right now.

    And Chad is better than Dilfer was, so I just said that when Dilfer could, Chad is of course capable of winning,but just with the right supporting cast
     
  14. A.C.E.S

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    Alright I agree with that, but he could make anyone better. Why can't chad do that ? You put Eric Mangini as there WR he will catch some damn balls.
     
  15. ThunderbirdJet

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    I'd have to disagree there.... Brady has a defense that allows him to have a bad playoff game and still win, like last week against SD. As is often the case, QB's get too much blame and too much credit. Don't get me wrong, I think Brady along with Manning are the two best QB's in the NFL, both hall of famers. But, constant comparisons to the best in the league (DRob vs. Wilfork, etc) doesn't make a ton of sense to me.

    Given Pennington's limitations, he has no shot of ever even being mentioned as a HoF'er. I don't think it's fair to constantly compare him to a guy that is a shoo-in for the hall. There's only one Brady, and he plays for the Pats.

    Brady has the luxury of a very consistantly good O line and an often dominating defense, along with until this year, the most clutch kicker in the NFL. BTW.... Brady left an awful lot of games on Vinateirri. I laugh when I see that commercial on the NFL network. He says: "When you spike the ball with 7 seconds left, and trot off the field looking at the goal posts, and you think this is for the championship of the world, it doesn't get any better than that!" I would think a TD pass to win at the end of the game would be better than that, wouldn't it?
     
  16. jetbugga

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    i guarantee you brady cannot win the superbowl all by his mighty self. they are well coached, balance running game and oh those linebackers of theres are a recipe for success.
     
  17. A.C.E.S

    A.C.E.S New Member

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    I think whatever wins you the ball game, I will take. I never seen the commercial your talking about but no commercial could top this..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY4UwcokerE
     
  18. ThunderbirdJet

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    LOL! Never saw that one! That one was staged tho..... the one on NFL Network, he's serious. I used to, (USED to) pick on Brady because he always left it up to Vinatierri to finish the job. But, eventually he shut me up because he would always get close enough for AV to win the game. I thought he had to win a game (playoffs) with 2 minutes left and down by 5 to be a GREAT QB, but he's changed my opinion. He just wins... and you're right, that's the bottom line.
     
  19. BxJetFan

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    Can Peyton Manning lead the team to the Super Bowl? It is easier said then done. We have been close with Chad Pennington. There is a reason why he takes us to the playoffs. We lose to the patriots because the Defense gave up the points. Brady didn't have a probem passing the ball and we couldn't stop them when they ran up our gut. We have to give Chad more time at least we know that with him we will be competitive. Other teams would love to have a Qb that will just keep them competitive.
     
  20. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Chad led the team to 3 points on offense in the game against Pittsburgh in 2004, so the fact that they almost won had absolutely nothing to do with him. He did play reasonably well against New England this year, but since the team lost by three touchdowns, that's not exactly evidence that he can win the big games.
     

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