To be clear, I'm not really expecting this but all it takes is 1 team to fall in love with Moore and I'm just hoping it's them because of their draft assets. We see teams trade up for busts all the time so it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility to me.
Sure, they get 3 first round picks...I get it. But if it's a pick swap and one extra first rounder, blah blah, then no way.
I would absolutely give up 2nd overall to drop down to 6th if we also get 28 and their 2027 1st rounder. That's 3 1sts in 2026 (6, 16, 28) and 2027 (NYJ, CLE, GB/DAL-whichever pick is better). If Mougey can't rebuild this team with that much ammo, he needs to be gone quickly.
Ok but Glenn would then have to sign Jacoby Brissett, probably is fired. And Mougey is gone maybe at end of the year? What you would do vs them is different. If Glenn starts poorly, he's gone. If it's another top 5 pick next year, not sure even Mougey makes it through. THey need hope and a QB to right the ship
This really all depends on what conversations Woody and Glenn are having, which we are unfortunately not privy to. Glenn seems to have a decent amount of pull with Woody so if this make-believe situation were to come into play I could totally see Woody keeping Glenn for another year to give him a chance to fully implement his vision with Mougey.
What are so great this year at 6, 16, 28 this year? We also got amazing value with Sauce, Wilson and Johnson and we still are terrible. Maybe just maybe it's not having more quality players the issue but the coaching + not having an elite QB to lead. I am all in to add more depth+ good picks but if your team culture is bad that is pointless. You are just ruining another rookie batch. If there is one elite player to draft sure? But all I see based on projecting is no true standout talents this year. Good players but below average top end talent.
yeah, I was going to say, if the JETS can't put together a competetive team with that haul it's time to close up shop.... for all of us...
Which is why I said the next regime may end up developing him, like Vrabel did with Maye. But we need a QB more than anything right now. Take a look at this, starting 8:40, from Todd McShea. Early still, but he is projecting Moore 1, Mendoza 2, but close. Further, he confirmed the same think @mezzavo and Connor Rodgers reported that the agents do not want their players to go to the Jets. Mentioned the Raiders suck too, but have much better overall reputation plus Tom Brady. He also brought up the point we discussed earlier that Moore might not even declare if he thinks he will be a Jet and not a Raider based on what agents tell him. Said the agents are in touch with the teams and can get a feel for what they might do. He then said there is a pretty big drop off after the QBs as top 10 is not blue chip filled as you would expect a top 10 to be. Basically whoever goes after the QBs in top 10 is in the eye of the beholder, there isn't a true #1 non QB. So, if Moore does not declare, not much difference between #2 and the rest of the top 10 or so. If he does declare, #2 is a lot more valuable. Whatever we end up doing, it is absolutely monumental for the Jets that Moore declares and there are two premium QB picks instead of one. 8:40
There's still talent in this draft. I know folks are saying this draft class isn't good but there are still quality players at positions of need for us and having 3 picks in the first round where we don't have to use any of them on the OL could help us build up our roster a great deal. I don't disagree on the QB part. The main reason we haven't been to the playoffs in almost 2 decades IMO is because we can't seem to pick the right QB either in the draft or via FA. I would disagree that adding good-great players to our team is never pointless. Even if Glenn doesn't stick around, those guys will be here for the next HC (maybe). If Mougey and Glenn decide that Moore is their guy though, you absolutely stay put at 2 and take him. In either situation, I think the best thing for them to do this offseason is sign a vet option (not Tyrod Taylor). Mariota or Minshew would be decent options IMO. This would give them time to keep Moore on the bench if he needs it and not feel like they have to start him immediately.
I’ve been obsessed with the draft since the times of ordering Joel Buschbaum’s guide in the mail every year… but I’ll admit since the Bills have Allen I don’t even look at the QBs anymore. I’ve been of the opinion the jets should not take a qb until next year, but now that they have the second overall pick maybe that changes (assuming Moore comes out).
I agree there seem to be people who say that every year and it’s very annoying. However, this year it’s true. QB class is very weak, but even more so, the rest of the class is weak at the premium positions. Usually the top 10 or so prospects are filled with guys at the premium positions like QB, OT, Edge Rusher, Corners etc. This year there are Zero elite prospects at any of those positions. The prospects that are good this year are all the weird positions that nobody wants to take high like off ball linebacker, safety, guards and running backs.
Okay. Time to pay rent as Bills fan occupying Jets household. Please watch some tape on Moore and Mendoza and tell us what you think. If you don't accept this payment, I will ban you for not paying your BILL(pun intended).
1) Other teams may be able to do two things at once, the Jets have never yet proven to me that they can do one thing at once. 2) I agree, there are no superheros, so why I don't understand advocating that we stack QBs instead of providing a good candidate with a great supporting staff that can help them develop. Having two or three QBs just cuts their reps and picks used to select them are taking away from supporting positions. 3) So you wanted Sam and Zach on the roster together, while I wanted Sam and Penei Sewell on the roster together, we could have had him and AVT come in together that draft and made a real difference. It would have literally taken pressure off of Sam.
Do NOT take Moore at 2. The Jets are not ready to take on that level of teaching at the QB position, they just aren't. Moore is a project and needs some serious refinement around his game and the Jets do not have the QB staff to support this We need a young veteran QB who's already been taught the pro game a la a Willis or Huntley. Much rather roll with one of these guys and build the entire roster. If Glenn has another bad year next year then can him and shoot for the stars with a big name offensive minded HC, etc and then we can draft and groom a young QB. We can't waste any of these picks. That's such a huge gamble at 2. Whereas someone like Bain is much more of sure thing and impact guy in Year 1. We need impact players now, now 2 years from now and definitely not from a project.
Yeah this feeling is unavoidable when you retain a coach that should clearly be fired. Hard to even look forward to next season.
