So Sam "I ain't afraid of no ghosts" Darnold and the Seahawks blew out a 49ers team with Saleh at the helm of the defense last night. As recently as the beginning of this season I remember arguing with JD apologists who insisted that Sam was no good despite a very good season with the Vikings last year. When confronted with an injury to their starting QB earlier this year the Dolphins decided to play a lesser known QB over Zach. Has the dust finally settled? Has this forum finally reached a consensus? If you still want to die on the hill that dumping Sam Darnold and rolling the dice on Zach Wilson with the second overall pick was the right call this is the time and place to explain to me what I am missing. There really isn't much else to discuss until the combine aside from the riveting search for that elusive defensive coordinator replacement as we prepare for another season with Aaron Glenn running the team into battle.
Has anyone chosen to defend Zach Wilson over Darnold since like 2022 dude? What kind of antagonizing thought is this lol.
You know if Sam, was an instant hit after leaving the Jets then your arguemnt would be better placed but he was bounced around for 3 seasons before it clicked into place. 3 more seasons with the Jets would have killed him. I'm glad for Sam, he never seems to have made a bitchy comment about the Jets and he deserved to do so. I hope he takes the Seahawks all the way.
There is no Seahawks (or Minny) version of Sam Darnold that happens on the New York Jets. At least while under any staff we've had between drafting Sam in 2018 and today. You just end up with 8 straight bottom shelf production seasons and that all end up being unsatisfying. Understand that and you might realize just how disassociated from reality that thought exercise really is.
Water under the bridge really. When we traded Sam out and went with the QB pick, majority of fan base on this forum, twitter etc was in favor of trading Sam and picking a QB. I was one of them and it shows how much I know about football.
This version of Sam doesn’t happen with the staffs we’ve hired since then. But it does had they hired McCarthy, who reportedly was interested in the Jets job at the time.
I wish in one way @James Hasty had been specific about precisely who (as in poster or posters), but then that would be picking a fight. That being said, "the board" - in a sweeping generality - does have a habit of silently divorcing themselves (no pronoun nonsense intended) from comments once vehemently made and defended. I'm thinking the thread is more that, and no one has (unsurprisingly) raised their hand(s) to admit it. The wheels of New York Jets ineptitude and dysfunction grind ever onward. Sigh.
Considering the number of picks we were offered for the #2 overall, I disagree completely. Sam started looking good when he started having talent around him, just like most QB’s. Let’s be very clear, Sam’s #1 receiver his last season here was Brashad Perriman, while Jamison Crowder was literally his only decent option to throw to. He had a rookie LT who as it turns out sucks ass everywhere he goes, and up the middle he had Alex Lewis, Connor McGovern, and Van Roten. I don’t think any QB in his 3rd season succeeds with that garbage.
It's not a crazy take that with another 3 seasons with the Jets he could have played himself out of the league. That's how broken he was when he left here. You could just see the lack of confidence in his eyes. Hiring Adam Gase was one of the worst, franchise altering decisions in the history of this godforsaken team. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If we kept Sam, hired decent coaches, fixed the ol and found him two halfway decent weapons there is no reason to believe that 8-8 was out of the question if we used that draft capital to support him. You can go back on this forum and simewhere you will find me fighting with someone who insisted that Zach was the right call. That short stint wity the 49ers did him a world of good but he didn't look all that bad in season two when Anderson was his favorite WR. If we were talking about Trevor Lawrence maybe you have to shoot your shot but he was a lock for Jacksonville with that number one pick. Now that we can see everything clearly with hindsight Joe Douglas was a horrible general manager.
Yeah, I think that the Jets talked themselves of picking Lawrence since they were likely to be at the top of the draft. Then when they failed the tank, they talked themselves into Wilson as a consolation prize. Scary thing is that 2021 QB draft is probably better than this year's! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Can we just make a poll so everyone who wanted to keep Darnold can put it on the record that they wanted to keep him? Maybe these sort of “ideas” can die so the guys who wanted to keep him can stop reminding the board every time he throws for 124 yards.
