Asset management aside, talent evaluation is even more paramount. If you pick the right players then asset management doesn't become as big of a concern because you can cut a lot of those free agent acquisitions after one season. Many of those pickups are not considered good by any honest talent evaluator outside of people who write for the NYJ media in all forms. They're hole fillers and mostly reaches and the Jets are hoping they pan out. That is rarely a sound strategy. And yeah I can absolutely say that with confidence because I know that all the players I listed are WAY more accomplished and proven than some scrub like Ty Simpson. So you can't just use your logic and not talk about the specific prospects at hand because that's the core of my argument. If you feel differently than surely you can offer up reasons why you don't think they're good or bad prospects.
Why would I offer up any opinion and try to have any form of discussion with someone who just said no matter what, their opinion is right? That’s the world in 2026 though.
Like I said above it’s about asset management. You stand a better chance at winning if you fill out the roster especially the areas where you have guys starting that shouldn’t be. We have 1 bonafide starting safety. 1 above average WR. A second year TE and an average at best TE2. Replaceable LG/C. To double dip at edge when you just signed two rushers and will be picking up the 5th year option on another doesn’t seem wise or make you any more likely to win. Especially when you follow that up with a CB after you signed one to big money last year, drafted one in the third round, traded for one and then signed another. Basically sure, they could all work out. But that isn’t gonna solve some of our biggest problems.
Peace.You and I are in agreement about the needs and the draft. So no argument there. My point is that what will determine the retention of the CS this year with Woody will not be determined by the quality of the draft, but by the performance on the field. Clearly a good draft will give us a much better chance, but if we hit gold with Reese, Downs, a WR and a stud CB or LB on the draft and we tank they will get fired. If we go brain dead with two DE and more defense and strike gold with 9-10 wins ( unlikely ) they will not. I personally don’t see any scenario where we double on edge with all our pressing needs, and Bain is not on my radar at all for this team. I truly think Moug has the know how to draft properly, barring no interference from Woody and/or AG.
I wasn't trying to say I'm right and no other opinion matters. Not sure why you got so sensitive and deflected. Didn't mean to come off that way. Obviously we don't need 2 D ends in the first 4 picks based on our current roster construction. However I thought it would be fun to get kind of creative and think outside the norm. Furthermore, the college and pro game are more similar than ever. if you notice, guys who show out in college tend to have a better chance to have that same skill set translate at the next level and quickly. Like significantly moreso than even, say, 10 years ago. I think Bain and Messidor would form a Denver-lite of Bonitto and the other guy I forget his name. Meaning when you play Denver the QB and backs are usually running for their life when playing against their dynamic Front. I honestly think that those two Miami ends could have the same effect if they teamed up in the pros. Watching them dominate the CFP was pretty special and I can't remember two ends that dynamic on one college defense in a while. That said. I agree from an asset mgt standpoint that it doesn't make sense.
I just don't think you pass on someone of Bain's caliber if you have a chance with the #16 pick (or a small trade up from there) because we signed some mid level DEs to short contracts. Reese will likely not be full time DE in the 1st year anyway, he will play a lot of LB. If we come away with Reese AND Bain from this draft with 1st two picks (plus a little bit of trade up assets), it would be amazing. These guys could be here for next 5 years wreaking havoc on opposing offenses.
Right, we agree. A dumb draft strategy (two edges and a CB with the first three picks) gives us less of a chance to succeed and success is the only thing that will save the staff.
It could be potentially special, there's no doubt. From all reports out there across the country, it looks like the Chiefs have Bain marked in blood to take at #9. They see him as their next, in a long line of stud, powerful, violent D ends in the mold of Tamba Hali, Chris Jones, and others. So if the Jets want Bain, it would almost have to guaranteed be before the 9th pick.
Who knows what this draft will be and I’m sure we’ll get some surprises…I also get this is all just fun to try and layout great drafts … it makes for good fun discussion. All that said, I would hate that last draft callout with the two DEs and a CB as our first three picks…we need offense just as badly and we absolutely need help at WR and TE and OG. I would not leave that to our 4th pick at all. Again, not saying anything as those players are all good prospects but I would hate that outcome…I think its an awful distribution of draft assets…yes we need help everywhere and BPA at just about any position outside of maybe OT would be a net positive, but I am just way too sick of our long history of ignoring offense…this is not the 1972 NFL…we need receivers
The argument that we shouldn’t use a top pick on Simpson because of his lack of real exposure and games played is a fair concern, but calling Simpson a scrub after a hand full of games behind a crappy OL does not help the credibility of your argument. There are many inputs from serious evaluators, both coaches and former NFL QBs that think the potential to eventually be a very good starter is there. Warner for example thinks his mechanics and read progression are top notch. I believe he will be scooped up first round by may be Miami or the Rams or a team with a good OC later first round.
Yeah that was a lazy take, fair enough. I'd be more than happy with him going to the Fins or Rams in the 1st.
The more I spend time with this draft class, the more I dislike it, particularly offensively. It’s poor value versus previous years. This is the year for mid-round flyers and we’ve got 4 picks in the top 44 spots.
I promise you in every “weak draft” there are multiple players taken in the top 44 that have turned out to be above average to great. I also think that the draft is “top the first round” heavy as opposed to weak overall. I do think there’s little difference between 44 and 64 but I’d rather have 2, 16, 33 and 44 than not in any draft.
This draft reminds me of that old (great) saying, “perfection is the enemy of the good” I just hope we execute a sound plan and help build a base. We traded away much of our top talent and we’ll lose the rest to FA (e.g., AVT) if we don’t show signs of turning it around. If we swing and miss it will suck royally. Get solid guys with the right attitude and who are smart w good instincts Hopefully w the number of our picks some surprise to the upside at some point in their career here
The Jets MUST draft at least 3 starters with their first 4 picks. And if one of them is not a QB, than they MUST draft 4 starters. That means 3 or 4 players who are better than current players at whichever positions they play. Thats a big plus. An immediate 14-18% improvement in personnel. They really should not trade out for picks after 44. i don't mind trading down as long as the return is still high picks. Add Smith at QB( and I'm going to give him some extra percent because of position), who has to be better than Fields, you have about a 25% improvement. Baring injuries and terrible coaching, thats really an enormous improvement. Hopefully it translates into wins.
What’s even worse is the elite players are not at premium positions. Safety, off ball linebackers, guards, a RB… it’s the worst year to have the number 2 pick and a bunch of others.
Not so fast. Edge rusher is one of the most premium positions in the game. There are 3 projected to be taken off the board in the top 10.
