Justins agent stated in a Tennessee rag that he might be dealt on draft day. Can't see what we could get for him though at this point, but anything would be good. Don't see the Titans interested as they made a deal with Justin Gage this weekend.... http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?section_id=7&screen=news&news_id=55191 Eagles grab Curtis before Titans By Terry McCormick, tmccormick@nashvillecitypaper.com March 16, 2007 This time, the Philadelphia Eagles got the better of the Tennessee Titans. The Eagles agreed to a six-year deal, worth $32 million, with free agent wide receiver Kevin Curtis of the St. Louis Rams. It contains $9.5 million in guaranteed money, including a $7.5 million signing bonus. The Titans had had Curtis in Tennessee for a visit Tuesday and were in the mix to land him, according to agent Bruce Tollner. ?They were very close. It was a very intriguing opportunity to have the chance to go down there and be a part of coach [Norm] Chow?s offense,? Tollner said. ?Their offer was very intriguing.? The Titans managed to snatch restricted free agent linebacker Ryan Fowler away from the Eagles on Monday with a four-year, $11.5 million offer sheet, that the Dallas Cowboys have until Monday to match or let Fowler go to the Titans. Curtis had 40 catches for the Rams last season, operating mostly as the team?s third receiver behind Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce. Ironically, the deal Curtis got from the Eagles is similar to the one the Rams gave former Titan Drew Bennett to replace him in St. Louis. Bennett got $30 million with $10 million guaranteed on the first weekend of free agency. In the end, the Eagles proved the most attractive option for Curtis, both in terms of joining a playoff team, having a chance to start and in terms of financial compensation. ?He had a great feel about the situation, and there are all the obvious factors that weigh into it, and that was the direction he chose,? Tollner said. The Titans are still thin at the receiver position after losing out on Curtis. They have had some talks with Chicago?s Justin Gage, who was also in for a visit on Tuesday. Titans general manager Mike Reinfeldt acknowledged recently that restricted free agent Terrence Copper of New Orleans has been discussed internally as a possibility, but as of Thursday, no contact between the sides had been made. The agent for New York Jets receiver Justin McCareins, a former Titan, said he now believes the Jets will attempt to trade McCareins rather than simply release him. McCareins, a 2001 draft pick of the Titans, is scheduled to make $3 million this season in New York. ?I don?t think they?re going to release him. I think they might hold on to him and perhaps try to make a draft day trade,? said agent Cliff Brady, who said he had no knowledge of any talks between the Jets and Titans. Also, agent Mitch Frankel, who represents Mike Williams, said to his knowledge there have been no talks between the Detroit Lions and Titans about the former first-round pick. The Titans did have safety Bryan Scott in for a visit, as scheduled, Thursday, and will host veteran linebacker Shawn Barber on Friday.
I hope it's more than McCareins' agent trying to increase his client's worth, but I kinda doubt it. It sounds like Cliff Brady is talking through his ass and really has no clue what the Jets will do with McCareins, but speculates this in order to drum up some interest in McCareins. But hey, if that happens and we can get a #6 or #7 for him, what the hell. I'm all for it. If not, we still have the option of keeping him around for depth.
I can't see them keeping him for depth at over 3 million, but who knows. Maybe the agent has already been approached about renegotiating and is playing this a bit coy. We shall see....
anything we can get for him would be a plus...hopefully this means we see more brad smith @ receiver...although i hope we can keep him in his 3rd and inches QB sneak role
Yeah, these agents are always trying to hype their clients' value even if they have to create their own scenarios to do it. I don't see anyone wanting to pay McCareins $3 million, so Tannenbaum probably offered him something like $1 million or less to hang around, in which case I could see us keeping him for another year. McCareins has to know his career is over after he leaves here. In the meantime, behind Cotchery and Coles we really have no solid #3. I still like what I saw in scrappy Tim Dwight and hopefully he'll heal up fine, but the jury is still out on Brad Smith as a dedicated, WR-only guy. He's a great all-around athlete but I think the day is coming where we need to define his role on the team.
Do you guys see recouping our 4th as being realistic? I'd love a 4th but my money says that if anything we're looking more at 5th or 6th.
It wouldn't surprise me that McCareins might still have some value somewhere, even here. But if we're talking a 4th or 5th Round for him, then I say take it. If a late 6th or 7th is all we can get, then give him enough to keep him here for another year and have him for depth. We need to buy at least one more year in order to get our WR corps rearranged and also figure out who our QB will be in August of 2008. Let's face it, a deep-threat speedster does us no good while Chad is still in dink and dunk mode, which looks like a given for the remainder of his career. And I see it as almost a certainty that Chad will start all 16 games this season unless he's injured, so for us to go crazy right now with WR's is not the immediate pressing need, IMO. Of course, we do need to get set for the coming of Clemens, so perhaps we should take somebody on Day Two is they happen to fall to us.
It would be really nice to get a draft pick out of McCareins instead of releasing him or having him fade away over the next couple of seasons. He's kind of the anti-Chrebet: big and fast and all the athletic ability in the world, and yet he still doesn't produce enough to justify holding an NFL roster slot. Give Chrebet his physical ability and he'd have waltzed into the hall of fame.
McCariens may be big but he is not a great talent. Cherbet had great hands and great hand eye coordination and also had a sense of where he was on the field. That is athletic talent. McCarien is big and fast and slightly uncoordinated why does that make him a more able WR? The thing that usually seperated the great from the good and the mediocre is not athletic talent, it's the way their brains process information and react to it. You couple that talent with speed, balance, great hands and than you're talking great. Chrebet was limited in some ways as is McCariens. Chrebet was less limited than McCariens.
McCariens speed is way overatted. He is not even that fast. But he was money last year and caught everything that was thrown his way. I hope we can somehow keep him.
I think when Heimerdinger brought McCareins in here, it was a bad fit. It was also just plain old unfortunate bad timing for Justin. I say this because McCareins' forte is catching the ball in the open. He doesn't create his own separation and he's always needed that, so he has to depend on a QB who'll create that for him. Chad was NOT the guy who was going to do that for him. With 8 guys jamming the box after Chad's injury, the dink and dunks were okay for a guy like Coles because Coles is tough enough to fight for the ball and/or take the punishing after-the-catch shots that the dink and dunk plays create, but not so McCareins. McCareins was traded to the wrong team at the wrong time. He would have faired much better under a QB who could get him the ball cleanly. Coles and Cotchery have learned to adjust to Chad's short, weak-armed deliveries and to their credit, have made some great plays despite the deficiency. But McCareins is just not made that way, so he continues to get zero separation because the field is too crowded with guys licking their chops in anticipation of the lazy blooper coming their way. Like I say, keep McCareins for now as depth, but with an eye for the future in Clemens, we'll eventually need to expand our horizons. By then, it'll be too late for McCareins and his window will be gone. Timing, as they say, is everything in life.
Were you watching the NY Jets or some variation of the team, ala Pop Warner, in Boca?? He was putrid last year, didn't catch a good amount of balls thrown his way and gave up on finishing plays where he could have caught the ball. He gave the least amount of effort out of anyone on the O last year.
as jets fans we have no idea what j mac can do ...unfortunately for j mac he is a big criuising wr that gets open after 12-15 yds..the cureent qb cnnot throw that far...it's almost laughable...the jets can never have a wr that runs the 12 yd out because they have the ONLY qb in the league that cannot make that pass..in yr 2 of the mangini experiment i fully expect to see his qb take over..lets see what he does with kellen(or any other qb that can cmplete the 12-15 out before judging him..i've never seen chad lead j mac on a deep pattern,and i no longer think it will ever happen.if mangini has a 3 yr plan then his qb has to start in yr 2.that qb is not chad pennington
I agree he's not a talent that's why I said athletic ability. In retrospect maybe even athletic ability is stretching it. He's big and fast and can catch a perfectly thrown pass most of the time. The reason I called him the anti-Chrebet is that Chrebet made more out of what he had than any athlete I've watched in NY sports. It's not like there was anything left in the locker-room with him. If he could make an impact he was going to make it. Obviously he was very limited by his height and that's what caused his career to be good and not great. Give him the physical tools that McCareins has and he'd have been a hall of fame receiver. McCareins was a 3rd receiver in Tennessee and should never have been asked to play a bigger role in the NFL. It was the Jet's mischaracterization of his talents that led to his exposure as a mediocre NFL receiver. You hide people like that until they can make an impact and you do your best not to put them on the field every down so that the rest of the league catches on.
i dont know why everything falls back on chad...he has nothing to do with mccariens lack of talent...I was a huge fan of jmac and thought he would provide the team with some serious deep threats and blockbuster plays...u want chad to throw deep to him when he can bearly catch a screen. I think he will go somewhere else and play at the same level he did here...he had no hands and his speed to me wasnt even all that impressive. The guy couldnt even pass a physical fitness test at the begining of the season and u think hes gonna be an effective weapon? Lets take whatever we can get for him.
Ditch j-mac and move up in the draft....3 mil for an unrealiable # 3 reciever? We can do better boys..
