ya, it was a good read. I liked two things: where Clemens talked about this being the second year in the system and therefore he knew where his weaknesses were and THAT THERE WAS A PLAN IN PLACE TO CORRECT THEM. And two: that he understood the hardest thing was the mental preparation and he was smart enough to recognize that he wasn't doing that as well as he could. Really, I guess that's kind of the same as the first thing. I guess what I'm saying is: any man who recognizes his weaknesses and is smart enough to even TRY to correct them will do well for himself.
We'll see. It's amazing that he got a sore shoulder from throwing in practice. That's either bad coaching on the Jets part, with too many reps, or else there's an issue there. The issue that I have with him at this point, the one that has lead me to talk so much about upgrading the QB position, is that Patrick Ramsey is a bad QB and I have trouble figuring out why Clemens didn't wind up in the two slot last season, particularly as the season wore down and he got more exposure to the game and the Jet's offense.
This guy sounds mentally fragile. Waking up in the middle of the night screaming out cadences? Geez settle down Clemens. Its just a game. Good thing we have Chad for another 5 years at least.
The sore shouler probably comes from the fact that in your rookie year you get NO time off between beginning of Senior year and end of rookie year. Having an off-season to relax and settle in helps. While in Oregon they had a different playbook every year he was there. This is the first time he has had the same playbook in the off season. This kid is gonna be a very good QB one day and I am praying its with the Jets. Also, Chad Pennington is such an amazing person to have next to you in the class room all the time. Clemmens has the drive to succeed and having Chad by his side is only a plus. Youth™
It sounds like Clemens really didn't make the transition to the NFL too well originally but at the same time he's coming around now and getting more comfortable. As far as the depth chart was and is concerned, I'm thinking that they want to keep Clemens away from the front lines as much as possible until he's truly ready for it. I would expect him to be third on the chart again this season with Tui being #2 unless the Jets will be trying to groom him, too. It depends. Here's food for thought, though: Brad Smith is also one of our quarterbacks and he had to learn the offense from the QB position in addition to completely learning the WR position. The fact that he didn't have any trouble like Clemens did in adjusting to the NFL way of life makes me think that he's a lot higher on the depth chart than the paper says he is. I hate using the reference to Antwaan Randle El so much in regards to Brad Smith, but he wasn't a QB on the depth chart for the Steelers and isn't for the Redskins while Smith is for us. That alone is an interesting fact.
eh, maybe... but i think it's pretty evident he just wasn't mentally ready. this is similar to Vilma adjusting to the 3-4. some guys take longer than others to comprehend things. Ramsey is a vet and if he's learned anything at all, it's probably how to prepare, rest, etc. so that gives him an edge. and perhaps the coaching staff didn't really want to move Clemens up on the depth chart until he was entirely ready to take the helm, which clearly didn't happen. but that's OKAY. it seems Clemens now has his head on straight, getting more sleep or whatever, and knows what to expect. i'll be very surprised if he's not #2 on the depth chart this year. (by the way, nice find, hydro.) cheers
“I told him that I was doing all this studying and still not retaining the information as well as I think I should have,” Clemens said. "He said, ‘Well, you probably aren’t getting your sleep. You can spend less time if you are rested and retain a lot better.’ I tried it and it worked, so it’s just part of the learning process.” How did this guy graduate college?
Nice article, but it doesn't exactly give anyone confidence in the guy to be honest. He sounds like he's at least a couple years away from being truly ready. His arm is sore from throwing so much? He's not even the starting QB. Everyone learns at their own pace... I don't fault him for being a rookie, but he's not going to be stepping in and lighting it up soon from the sounds of things.
i didnt read anything about his arm being sore. all he said he wasnt used to throwing so much in a season.
“I know it physically took a toll on some of the other rookies. With the exception of my shoulder, because I wasn’t used to throwing that much in a season, either, it really wasn’t physically horrible." Shoulder - physically horrible. Hard to turn that into anything other than a sore shoulder.
What he's saying is that except for his shoulder it was not physically horrible. That's the meaning of the sentence you bolded.
Exactly... it wasn't physically horrible, but there was an issue... I have to assume he was sore but did not injure it.
Probally, if he had got more game action, whe would have retained a bit more. Sometimes you learn it- by- doing it. This guy received no game action. Taking 5 snaps all season & throwing zero passes is not receiving game action. Actually, I thought that was one of Mangini's shortcomings last season....not getting Clemens any real game action. The guy threw zero passes :breakdance:
Yeah it just sounds like he was throwing 50 passes twice a week in practice and got sore as the season wore down. QB's wearing icepacks on their shoulders is nothing new in the NFL. It's a bit troubling to see it on a 22 year old guy though.
