playcalling at end of ravens game

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  1. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    I was screaming for a draw play...I htought it would have worked....but that could me my loser mentality from watching too many Jet losses......but hindsight is 20/20 and we cant complain about the playcallling when we dropped three game-tying passes.....execution is what killed us yesterday
     
  2. Blitz4Life

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    trust me.....theres no such thing as catching that defense off guard. The 1 or 2 screens we ran yesterday at the most unpredicatable times were snuffed out and blowin up in the backfield
     
  3. GSourJr

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    I would like to have the Jets try to seal the end and have Clemens rollout with a pass/run option on at least one play.

    Shottenheimer kept Clemens in the pocket all day and the Ravens knew just where to find him.

    Had them rolled him out once in a while, they might've slowed them down a tic
     
  4. jets21027

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    how about the fact that our wr dropped 3td chances we didnt need to run all they ahd to do was catch the damn ball!!!!!!1
     
  5. Beamen

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    He was aware of it, but I think early he was very afraid to make a mistake...

    If he had had no idea the rush was coming, he would have coughed it up at least once, like most young QBs do in their first couple starts.... He had the presence of mind to stick in there and hold on to the ball... As he matures, he'll probably learn to tuck and run and/or throw the ball away in those situations... But we'll see....
     
  6. Borgata

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    As bad as things were in the pocket for Clemens seeing Suggs in open space might be even scarier.
     
  7. greenhorse

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    i repsectfully disagree

    3 td passes were dropped.i don't think you can expext more when designing a play..the o-line and qb executed the plays perfectly.the game was lost because of dropped balls by wr's.the playcalling was perfect, and perfectly executed by a virtual rookie qb against the best d in the nfl.chad pennington will be rested for at least 2 more weeks.mark my words ...
     
  8. BlairThomas#1

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    Why are people saying the game was lost because of 3 dropped balls. First of all, a TD only ties the game. Second, why couldn't Clemmens throw a better pass to LC instead of one that was 2in off the ground.

    Third, how is everyone forgetting that the Jets looked like total crap for 3 straight quarters against Kyle F'in Boller? How about having a lead at some point, that probably would have been a good idea.

    The Jets still didn't have a sack or a takeaway, the rushing "attack" was pathetic and Clemmens looked like a poor man's Brooks Bollinger. (Including the 4th Quarter, Clemmens had a completion percentage just above 50%.
     
  9. Harpua

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    Yea, we looked like crap the untill the 4th. Yes, any one of the 3 pass could have been caught, the pass to coles would have been a great catch, but the two to Jmac hit him in the damn hands.

    The Jets D looked average at best, to no one's suprise. No sacks or take aways yet again.

    As for picking on the completeion percentage, thats useing stats to the advantage of someone who's picking at straws. Yea, KC was 19/37 for a %of 51.4... but if Jmac catches that first ball? Or coles was not knocked down on the first INT? This could go on and on, for both sides of the argument (say Cotch does not run for 50 after a catch ect).

    The point being, KC played fine. The Jets could have easily tied a very good team with him at QB if he gets one of two easy catches. Impressive for a first start.

    Beyond all that, he looked decent in the first 3 quarters. He missed badly on some throws, but also made some plays and avoiding some pressure. He was not helped out by his line at all.

    By the 4th he was picking up the Blitz prior to the snap and hitting the single coverage with well timed and placed throws.

    People are saying the game was lost on those plays because you could tell the momentum had shifted and we had the tie on any one of three plays near the end. Two of which our 2nd year QB made the right read, right throw, and got screwed by a yearly scapegoat who proved yet again to be choke artist number 1.
     
  10. ihatethedolphins3

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    dont turn this into another take ur cheap shot at pennington, defend penningtion thread....saying that i think the playcalling toward the goaline was fine, id rather put iur fate in lc or cotchery's hands, not our olines
     
  11. BlairThomas#1

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    A few catches and Clemmes completion percentage creeps to 55%. Good QBs are in the mid-60's. Tom Brady is over 80% through two games which is absurd.

    If you honestly belive that Clemmens had "an impressive first start" I am going to have to play the agree-to-disagree card. There is nothing more I can say.
     
  12. Harpua

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    Good QB are in thier mid 60's. Good QB's like Joey Harrington (67.3) and JP Blowsmen (63) or how about Josh McCown (67.9)

    Then there is shity QB's like big ben (57.9) and Tony Romo (54.7).

    Completeion %, like all stats, only points to part of the story. Trying to tell someone how a player did by stats alone is silly and points toward bias by those using them.

    (quick, look up some stats on rating or win % to get my point)

    Why do I think KC had an impressive first start? Becasue I watched how much he ended up on his ass, and how he adjusted to the Defense throughout the game. How he made plays that gave us the chance to tie the game.

    I don't bother judging on stats anyone can dig up for thier own reason. Stats are nice for getting in the hall of fame, for raising the value of yoru rookie card, and for giving the announcers something to make themselves look smart inbetween plays.

    You can agree to disagree and thats fine, but cherry picking what stats you want to use is not the best way to go about things.
     
  13. johnny

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    To keep this on point with regards to the playcalling from the eight yard line: I think one of the plays that has to be tried is a fake hand-off to TJ with KC rolling out to his right. Send a WR (not named McCareins) to the corner of the end zone and send Baker to the back of the end zone - or only send one person to the EZ and give KC the option. I've see a fake handoff work so many times in that area it's not even funny.
     
  14. JIMsection323

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    i agree i was at the game and sat in the endzone row 11 where the jets were driving, and all i could think was run the ball, or throw a screen to washington. I couldnt understand the play calling.
     
  15. JIMsection323

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    wait the OL executed perfectly? i'll agree they adjusted in the 4th and gave clemens some more time. But i was there and the OL was horrible in the first 3 quarters. They nearly got clemens killed, did u see some of the shots he took. Also Jones ran for 67 yards!!!!! He had no room to run.
     

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