How come no one is throwin Dyson under the bus

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  1. JUNJOBX2199

    JUNJOBX2199 New Member

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    That’s one of those men vs. beast things. The guy's arms are as long as Dyson's Legs. It reminded me of a seen from the beach where the bully has his hands out and the little guy is swinging at air! Chad still sucks!
     
  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Why do people continue to have issues with separating the fact that our defense sucks with the fact that Chad sucks?

    Defense sucks != Chad doesn't suck

    Chad sucks != Defense is good

    They're not mutually exclusive and unfortunately both are true.
     
  3. jetglass

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    Chad was indeed awful last game. However, I would recommend actually watching the games. Either that or you were watching a different team's defense playing.
     
  4. Coach K

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    no i watched the game. the defense gave up after chad threw the game. dont blame them either.

    all i know is we were in position to make the game out of reach after our d shut them down first half. and chad throws a costly pick. we get scored upon. chad has another chance and throws a pick 6.

    our offense scored 10 points. something tells me our offense is worse than our defense.

    going into the 4th qtr of the bills game and the giants game the defense played well enough for chad to win. chad meltsdown in both 4th qtrs and the defense gives up.

    i do watch the games. im just sick of people trying to make a scapegoat for chad. maybe if chad threw more than 1 td a game or had a deep ball at all there wasnt a pick 6 either.

    our defense almost scored as much as the offense.

    i dont care that the defense sucks, and when you have a below avg defense that puts you in position to win. you have to score. we cant. so point in case the ultimate blame goes on chad.

    sorry thats how it goes. you have to make plays when it matters. and it just so happens chad is the one who has blown in clutch situations. its not like were getting blown out in these games.

    the defense does suck though i never said they were good. but the last two weeks they came out and put the game in a winnable position for our offense and it hasnt happened.
     
  5. letsgochad

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    totally agree, plax makes great plays, that wasn't one of them, lets all bash chad, when our defense is absolutely terrible

    there is no excuse for that play by dyson, it was absolutely pathetic
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I agree with all of this, although I think the OP is trying to construe that most people are blaming the loss to the Giants solely on Pennington, which is incorrect.

    Dyson isn't a physical man-cover guy, which is what we need for this type of defense and is why we drafted Revis. Think Aaron Glenn. Glenn was not the biggest guy but he could stay with his man when it got physical. And it's why Dyson is lined up with a huge cushion on his man a lot of times. Guys like Burress who have a physical advantage over Dyson abuse him.
     
  7. ScotsJet

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    Chad tried, but, sadly, Dyson was intercepted by a guy on a scooter who took him all the way back.
     
  8. Coach K

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    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    oh shit man good one that is awesome.
     
  9. red75bronco

    red75bronco Well-Known Member

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    You forgot to put "we got scored on when the Giants went on a 99 yard drive"
     
  10. Coach K

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    so the Jets getting an INT before the 2nd half so we can get 3 points on the board wasnt good enough either. i guess it wasnt good enough for them to score a defensive td either

    i guess the 99 drive is alot worse than chad throwing two picks in the 4th qtr while trying to come back, one returned for a touchdown. and its definitely worse than our offense only scoring 10 points in a game where we scored 24.
     
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    Dyson is a solid CB but, on that play, I agree that he should be criticized. Don't give credit to Plax for the stiff arm. That TD was all about Dyson not being able to tackle. Barrett does this a lot more than Dyson but I've constantly noticed WRs on opposing teams catching the ball and then our CBs will just stand a foot away from them blocking them from going forward. Yeah, that's one way to prevent the guy from getting more yards. Another, more effective, way is to hit him very hard so he falls down.
     
  12. Greatful Jethead

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    Sorry cant agree here, Defense was unable to stop the Giants at all ...Let alone when it counted. Chad at least gave us a chance to win. But once again we couldnt even make an easy tackle
     
  13. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Also forgot to put "Chad floated a completely retarded pass into double coverage on first and ten in the Red Zone"
     
  14. semperfidelisjetfan

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    I noticed this a lot from out DB's throughout the game. It doesn't seem like they want to "stick someone". There was a play when Eli Manning ran with the ball in the middle of the field for about 10 yards. Revis had a chance to lay the smack on him an looked like he just gave up. Our D- Backs don't seem to have that killer instinct like other Defenses around the league have.
     
  15. Royal Tee

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    I don't know the lovefest w/ Dyson but I have been uber critical w/ him especially his lack of tackling.

    I brought it up in the preseason again but for some reason people think he can't be blamed.

    Just like last year when he got burned vs Minny, no one even held him accountable.
    It's a Joke.
     
  16. Beamen

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    The way I see it, the defense and offense scored 10 each.... I don't care if the defense gave up 50... When they score as much as the offense, you HAVE TO put more blame on the O than the D
     
  17. The Lord

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    I agree. Like what WSW said...just because Chad sucks doesn't mean the defense isn't to blame and doesn't suck, or vice versa. They both SUCK!

    The defense can't stop anybody and the opposing running back each game sets a new record for yards after first hit and broken tackles. It's insane the way they don't wrap up.

    And just because Chad sucks doesn't mean the defense is suddenly the Ravens. Chad can't make the throws that basically any other QB can make. Just like what Randy Cross said, completion percentage doesn't matter if you dont' get your team points. We got ten points that game offensively in a game where we scored 24, I'm sorry the blame is on the offense, and the offense's inability is to blame on Chad.

    Remeber Geometry? Tranisitve property? Problem with team=offense (defense to blame but not as much), problem with offense=Chad, Problem with team=Chad!
     
  18. ihatethedolphins3

    ihatethedolphins3 New Member

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    dyson said he thot plex was out of bounds, it was a honest mistake, but as a vet he should know u need to finish plays
     
  19. Coach K

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    thats what i was doing :) sarcastically.
     
  20. Greatful Jethead

    Greatful Jethead New Member

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    I think we are on the same page here on this one.
     

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