In hindsight you would think that the front office would have asked Mangini what type of defense he was going to employ and knowing it was a 3 4 was the current roster of players on his team capable of playing that type of defense. The logical conclusion one can make from Mangini's using the 3 4 would be that he would have to rebuild the defense with players that fit that mold. Furthermore it would indicate to me that we would need to have multiple draft picks and a number of trades in the off season. The way the FO went about the off season was as if we just needed to tweak a few things. This is just another sad example of how the organization did not see the future so to speak. None of us our defensive experts but we all can agree that Vilma is not a 3 4 LB, nor is Robertson a true nose tackle. The last point is about drafting of KC. Was he just suppose to be the back up or was he to be the future. I believe it had to be the ladder because you wouldn't use your 3 or 4 (forgot when they took KC) for a backup. If the answer is the ladder then why are they not evaluating him now to prepare for the draft and see if we need to go out and get a #1 QB.
Kellen Clemens is not a backup, plain and simple. This guy was drafted in the 2nd round, number 49. There were only 48 players taken above him. Peter King had Clemens listed very high, I believe King had him listed as his number 2 QB on draft day, Ron Jaworski also had something similar. Kellen is the future, I would just love to watch most of his growing pains this season rather then next.
The FO is Mangini and Tanny and they knew from the start that the 3-4 would be implemented. So they have only themselves to blame for this disaster. Woody Johnson is not involved in football decisions and is a hands off and weak owner. What this team needs is an owner in the mold of a Kraft, Jones, or Steinbrenner - hands on owners that are heavily involved in their teams and don't tolerate losing.
I am sure when he was interviewed that Mangini stated what type of defense he wanted. The long term plan is obviously to switch to the 3-4. I think the problem is that Tannenbaum and Mangini got cocky. They bought into their own hype. Jones was a great trade and Kenyon Coleman has proven to be a solid signing. And while Revis and Harris might turn into great players, we needed more picks not less. They got a little "cute" with the draft and got big heads. HOWEVER, I also think that part of the long term plan is to try and find good young players, and phase out the players that don't fit gradually (when a better alternative presents itself) and not force anything. Which is good long term, but is shitty short term.
Wow U should change ur user name to the I made a 180 degree course correction. So happy to see you we are now both on the same side of the ledger so to speak.
Whoever, so long as it's a proactive owner who really wants to see his team succeed- I want the guy involved in everything, contracts, salary disputes, pricing on hot dogs, etc..
Cuban would have been in the Locker room right after the Cincy loss and would have benched Pennington himself! He would not stand for this nonsense!
They weren't aggressive enough. I think they should have kept Vilma, too good to get rid of after one year. And there wasn't really a nose tackle available. But they didn't go after any pass rushers, and they didn't go after Adelius Thomas at all who could have been a great fit. Seemed like they tried to be like the Patriots and bring in a few role players and figured it would be good enough, but they didn't realize the Patriots have a ton of talent as well. As for Clemens, he was drafted when we had no idea if Chad could ever play again. If they knew that Chad would have a good year last year, I don't think they would have drafted him. But Chad has not had a good year and this team is done so he should be playing now, there's no good explanation why he's not playing. Only thing I can think of is that he had a pretty good game Sunday so it might look like they were scapegoating him. They should have benched Chad after the Giants game.
There is a big difference in talent from Dirk and Chad. We are talking super star and super overrated!
its sad that we run a 3-4 when we have a guy like vilma who has potential to be an elite backer, i also think ellis and d-rob would be real playmakers in a 3-4, now that we have a decent secondary with rhodes and revis mangini lost his brain with all that weight, bring back the penguin
What plays would Ellis make? He simply cannot rush the passer nor can he defeat 1 on 1 blockers anymore. We rush 4 most plays and Ellis is generally nowhere to be found. I agree Robertson just isn't a nose tackle.
