Obviously signing John Runyan would be to say that we know have a guy to protect Leinart's back. But, imagine if we use him to shore up the right, take D'Brick to hold down the left for years to come, and either draft a QB next year or take a guy like Croyle or Jacobs....this way the rookie QB we pick will have protection and not get hurt or discouraged befor ehe has a chance to develop. If we do trade up and take Leinart second overall, we still need to remember that there are probably 2 spots on the O-line we need to fill after we get Runyan. It's not easy to just tell Jones he is a LT now, and we still need either a C or LG depending on what Kendall does. Would that mean that we'd take Leinart at #2 then Max-Jean Gilles or someone else in round 2? Surely our coaches and GM know that they can't just throw Leinart in there behind Joh Runyan and the rest of the guys we already have, he'd get killed. And remember, he has had injuries....shoulder injuries..... Of course, Matt would have to beat out Chad and Patty
Hopefully it kills the possibility of Ferguson, since we already have a LT. And if the team wants Leinart, I don't think signing Runyan is the main reason for that. If they want Leinart, it's because they like him as a QB regardless of who they signed or drafted to protect his blindside. I'd prefer Mario Williams or a trade down.
i hope the Runyan signing is true: that means we already have Runyan, Kendall, and Jones -- all the more justification to trade down and draft Vernon Davis. hah. cheers
A Runyan signing to me would mean we draft either Mario or Leinart at 4, or we trade down if one of them is not available.
the signing of runyan means that our offensive line will be ready for competition this year assuming we draft mangold with #29 which we definitely will do: LT-jones LG-kendall C-mangold RG-moore RT-runyan this doesnt mean that we are drafting a QB.. we already have pennington and ramsey.. that is more than sufficient for this year.. we should trade down and get a kings ransom for the #4 pick.. we can then get vernon davis who will 1. be a TD scoring weapon, 2. provide a big body for blocking since doug jolley is a wimp, 3. provide the downfield threat so other teams wont crowd 8 people in the box which will help our running game.. so as you can see, vernon davis will instantly improve our passing and running game.. he is an impact player that can play multiple positions and give us that edge against defenses.. the TE position is evolving, and vernon davis is going to be the next dominant TE for years to come.. i also believe that we should draft deangelo williams.. he is the next coming of LT.. who wouldnt try to draft a prospect like that?? trade both our 2nd round picks up to ~#15 and take williams.. who wouldnt be happy with davis, williams, and mangold in the first.. that would be the best draft EVER by our organization.. and when better to start!! heres to the new regime!!
Nope. Runyan is a RT, Brick a LT. Having a franchise LT, which I think Brick will be, on your team is a HUGE positive. The insurance Brick will give the QB, protecting his blindside is nothing to sneeze at. Jones is average at best, and if the Jets are able to upgrade at LT, they should IMO. Draft a RT to learn behind Runyan for a coulpe years, maybe even Jones can, and shore up the line for years. So no, IMO, Runyan does not preclude Brick.
i agree; although i'm not fond of the Williams scenario you proposed. for one, i think RB can wait another year until we figure out when Martin is gone and who's better between Houston and Blaylock. Furthermore, 3 R1 picks isn't cap friendly down the road, which is when we'll be contending. If and when those three guys turn out to be studs, it'll be very difficult to resign all of them. (by the way, i wasn't being sarcastic about Davis. i fully advocate drafting him; signing Runyan helps make this more possible because it's one less early pick we need to use on OL). cheers
That O-line sounds good. I disagree with some of your draft selections though. 1) We have way too many holes to fill to worry about a TE in the first round. Forget about Jolley, Baker is a good blocker and receiver. 2) We don't need a RB either. Curtis Martin still has some gas left in the tank, and Cedric Houston gained 3.7 per carry last season behind a makeshift O-line when teams knew the run was coming. We need LB, DT, DE, OL, QB, CB
i dont think it will be that difficult to resign them because of their positions.. if we were to draft a QB, RB, and OT in the first round then i would see that as a problem.. but its a TE, RB, and a C.. i dont see that giving us too much problem in the future..
i don't understand how we need another LB, but not a TE with the playmaking ability of Davis. Any other TE, and I'd say forget it. But Davis has more potential than any TE in recent memory. obviously, OL is going to be fixed and the first pick doesn't need to be used on it. CB will be drafted for depth (maybe R2,3,4?). DE and DT are the only other positions that may need to be addressed early. Still, if Davis is the better player than whatever player we'll get at DE/DT in the spot we're picking, then Davis should be the guy. cheers
The signing of Runyan lessens the chances of us drafting D'Brickashaw Ferguson, but again... still doesn't mean much, IMO.
why the hell would the broncos give up the #15 for 2 second rounders...and we dont need a running back, although i wouldnt mind taking him if he turns out to be pretty good
deangelo williams led all the NCAA with the most 100 yards games.. he is the next best rb after bush and has shown over and over that he is the REAL DEAL..
If Runyan is signed we won't take an OT on day 1. You are correct in saying that we need either a LG or C (preferably C *cough* Mangold *cough*) but Jones is inexpensive and a talented young LT that will learn and get better as he grows into the position. You guys have to remember that he has a greater chance of getting better then any other 3rd year tackle because he played TE in all but one of his college seasons. Only in his senior year he played tackle and he's still getting used to blocking on every down.
Is Adrian Jones actually good though? Like everyone talks as if he is a standard on our O-line but I don't know what he does that's so great.....I know I have seen him get beat too.......I wish we could go for Kaczur from the Pats but he is too good for them to let go I think...
Jones has tremendous upside, but is raw. This year was basically equivalent to a 3 year starter at LT in college, but he didn't switch to LT until his senior year.
Its Matt in this draft. It haaaaas to be Leinart. Now that the Jets have sufficient means to acquire him and addressed the o line with a quality player in Runyan (if he did sign). Leinart is worth it. He is the best college qb to come out since arguably Michael Vick.
