Again, the salary cap argument is silly. The Patriots have many great skill players making a lot of money AND a great QB making a lot of money, yet they still have a great OL. Do they get extra cap room from the rest of the league? No, but they draft and scout well. I also think the Jets stopped trying to fix the OL with late round picks and journeymen when Mangini and Tannenbaum came aboard. Their first two draft picks EVER were offensive linemen, and they tried incredibly hard two years in a row to sign big time FA linemen. A team that scouts well and has good coaching can find linemen in the mid-rounds, that can turn into very solid players. The Pats have 1 first round pick and ZERO elite FA signings on their line. You win in the trenches with good scouting for the draft, good coaching, and consistency. You spend money on playmakers and skill positions.
aint gon happen suckaz pack it up he teezin he 85 fa life aint no question talent &jets aint mixin in dub o-7
I have to QFT since I didn't read this earlier for some reason. The Jets organization has helped to foster a pretty loser-mentality among fans that makes people just write off whatever marquee FA that pops up, and I have to say I have been guilty of it myself in the past. Johnson is not a disciplinary problem, he sure showboats it on the field but for the production we can get for him, if he is on his way out of Cincy, would be worth the price IMO. Tanny is a numbers guy so I don't see the contract being a huge problem and as long as they structure it well, we can get away with signing the guy as well as going big on the lines if they do it right. This FO has to invest in some game-breakers if they want to ever compete in this division. Guys like Chad Johnson don't come available very often. I'm not a big fan of Faneca but if whomever is the new O-line coach can fit him into the scheme, he is a veteran that can have a lot to add for our young players in that group as well as doing his job. Great teams compete in FA and the draft, not just one or the other. So far we have only done one with this 'new' regime.
Cam you imagine the fan revolt in Cincy if they come back w/ Vilma and a pick for the face of their franchise? No matter who's unhappy or what they're due to get paid, this is not happening.
Damn this is more difficult to understand then all the AP English crap I've been doing. I love how everyone is against getting one of the top 3 WR's in the game and greatly enhancing our passing game... for everyone advocating the salary cap; what offensive lineman are out there that we can spend the money on and fix the line with? I've heard from Steeler fans that I know that Faneca had a terrible year and is over the hill, guys like Ruben Brown and Flozell Adams aren't going anywhere and are crapshoots at their age if they do, Max Starks? Sean Locklear? Definitely not worth a million or two less then freakin Chad Johnson, especially since there's not a Steve Hutchinson available this year to come in and be a guaranteed force and savior to our makeshift line. I honestly think we can get better and more guaranteed offensive lineman in the draft, while giving up the $7-8 million a year for one of the biggest playmakers in the game. Like 10Pen said so far this regime has taken 5 1st or 2nd round picks and pulled out our two best defensive players and two best offensive lineman, as well as the possible QB for the future - why doubt their draft ability to fix the front 7 and offensive line? Also for those of you blaming the offensive staff, I agree they had a role in the lackluster offense, but you can't really blame them because the players are not there to throw the ball downfield consistently. Yes Coles and Cotchery both had their share of 20+ and 30+ yard catches this season, but must of those were good runs after the catch (especially with Cotchery) in the dink and dunk crap that we run, and that Clemens seems to be INT-happy in. It's not an offense designed for a strong arm, we need the playmaker to allow him to use it. Wouldn't a player like Chad Johnson force Schott to be more creative and innovative in his playcalling? Kill two birds with one stone.
Getting a playmaking 4-3 MLB to start the rebuilding on defense while still having one of the league's better receiving cores and 4 first day picks? While getting rid of someone who is being cancerous to you because he hates his bum of a head coach (and with good reason)? Sign me up. It's not like he's a low character guy, just more of a public celebrity in the mold of say Michael Strahan... I mean can you blame him for not being able to bear his CS? His head coach is supposed to be a defensive guru who has thrown picks at his defense and still can't get it done. That defense is just flat out pitiful, and in his 3 or 4 or whatever years he needs to have at least made it a middle of the road D, not bottom 5 in the league.
Good arguement but I disagree on 2 counts. 1) I know Vilma's out of his specialty in the 3-4 but can he still be counted as a playmaker? Even outside of his system one has to make plays if only by mistake. Maybe his foot was a bigger problem than we thought but he's been flat out awful the last couple years. Now he's damaged goods. 2) Is CJ's pouting really that hazardous to the locker room? Is everyone else happy with the losing record? Sometimes having a "whiner" with a voice is a good thing. It can force some changes when people have to listen. Besides, leadership is more effective on the field than in the locker room IMO. If I were a Bengals fan you couldn't sell me on this trade.
Ocho Cinco is a self promoting talented fool. Me first is his motto. No thank you unless you want some real dissension in the locker room. Lots of talent no character and Mangini learned from his ex boss about character. When the game is on the line you need it.
On other notes, Roy Williams is also looking to get out. Larry Fitz is going into his contract year and the Cards may be looking to trade him for something rather than losing him for nothing when he hits the Market. Quite a few WRs out there that can be traded this offseason.
Larry Fitzgerald would be awesome... perfect hands and height for what our offense needs... I haven't heard much about him being available though?
