Draft 1st round RB Before QB

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  1. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    Really? Cool, drop me an PM.

    And about martin, I'm aware but from my angle he looked the same in the dolphins and KC games as he did in any other game.
     
  2. Coach K

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    Houston will be a change of pace/backup RB his career, we could pickup a franchise back this yr and phase martin out soon.


    thats just my take. i'm fully behind DeAngelo

    no way were able to trade down from 29 for him. hes a top 12 pick this yr maybe he slips but thats roling the dice by expecting him to fall farther.
     
  3. LV Coach

    LV Coach Well-Known Member

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    Guys, guys, guys

    No way (IMLTHO) we should pick a RB in the 1st 3 rounds. We need big time help on the OL, in the DB's, a stud nose tackle for the 3/4 and back-up for these
    positions. A big-time OL can pop some holes for even an average RB. Start with that and we'll devolop a running game and maybe even be able to get away with some screens for a change.
     
  4. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    your post is totally accurate
     
  5. Tennessee Jet

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    LV Coach - great point... Look at Pittsburgh this year. Willie Parker is no world beater and Bettis is certainly not in his prime, but that OL! Before we focus on RB /QB /WR/TE.... we need to address the OL/DL
     
  6. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Curtis will not be released as you said. Blaylock maybe if they draft a rb.

    If we do draft a RB, it needs to be a fast, quick, game-breaker type; not a big bruiser (lendale white). Maybe someone like Addai at 35.

    That would give us a great Thunder-n'-lighting duo for years to come. Cedric Houston & Joseph Addai (or some other RB in the draft)
     
  7. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    You do realize that Davis was injured and had his career ended prematurely, and that Mike Anderson was there BEFORE Portis, they TRADED Portis for Champ Bailey and a 2nd rd pick, and that Bell has yet to prove much, so they went back to Anderson, who the recently released............


    Not saying that the JETS need a RB to carry Curtis's torch, but with the needs of the team, a 1st rd RB is NOT a priority IMO.
     
  8. JetLag

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    Drafting a RB is about the dumbest thing the Jets could do in round one unless one of the top-3 falls to them at #29 (not happening) then maybe you think about it.

    In the last 10 superbowls, how many did so with a RB they drafted in the first round (let alone with a top-4 pick)?

    2005 Steelers = Parker(UDFA) / Bettis (FA)
    2004 Pats = Dillon (FA)
    2003 Pats = Smith (FA) / KFaulk (Rd 2)
    2002 Bucs = Pittman (FA) / Alstott (Rd 2)
    2001 Pats = Smith (FA) / KFaulk (Rd 2)
    2000 Ravens = J.Lewis (Rd 1, #5 overall)
    1999 Rams = MFaulk (FA)
    1998 Broncos = TDavis (Rd 6)
    1997 Broncos = TDavis (Rd 6)
    1996 Packers = EBennett (Rd 4) / Levens (Rd 5)

    RB is the one kind of missing piece where a player can step in right away as a FA. Or if drafted, they don't need the same grooming/growth that players in the trenches (OL/DL) or other skill positions (QB/CB/WR) usually need. Without one of the best defenses of all time and a punishing OL, Jamal Lewis would've had as many rings as Curtis Enis.

    RB (HB in particular) should be just about the LAST hole we fill.
     
  9. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    Excellent research...
     
  10. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    yes but the legs are shot partly actually mostly because of age...theyre not gonna get better penny
     
  11. Coach K

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    I see your thinking, I'm against Leinart your for him, both bias.But he would be the "safest' pick at QB. But if we did not make a move for Leinart would you be against picking up DeAngelo or another RB in the 1st?

    and I'm not saying that is definitely what we should do. But like I said I think Houston will be a solid career "change of pace/backup" RB. Meaning, not Franchise.

    just looking for more thoughts particularly a Leinart supporter
     
  12. JetTerp

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    I politely disagree with you....we do not go QB this year. Draft around the QB spot, give Penny and Ramsey a shot this year, and then IF that does not work out you bring in a QB. I just do not see Leinart beeing a franchise QB.

    Fitz
     
  13. hoobash

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    As I post already. The jets are NOT drafting a rb. They just dont have the space on the depth chart for 1.

    1. Curtis not going anywhere
    2. Blaylock just more to cut then to keep and is cheap
    3. Houston is a 6th round pick who maybe a solid starter/depth

    who gets the axe?
     
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  14. JetLag

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    Houston would get the axe probably. If we still have >$15M in cap room on May 31st, it might be Blaylock. You don't keep a backup RB that's so expensive unless you're a contender, which we are not in 2006.

    But I agree, we're not drafting a RB; particularly on day one. Spending a VERY high draft pick on a RB is not a pre-requisite for winning the superbowl. Actually if you look at my post above, it's a rarity.

    Build the team's trenches. Draft a QB if you think Leinart/Cutler is all that since they WILL need some time to develop (unlike a RB). If we keep our cap in good shape & don't go bananas every time we have a little space, there should be plenty of room to add a high-profile FA like the Pats did with Dillon or StL did with Faulk; and they can step right in.
     
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    First,

    I can't see pairing a 1st draft pick with Houston, there aren't going to be enough balls to go around. Second, due to his injury, we never got to see what Blaylock can do. We can work with the 3 RBs we have on the roster. we have too many other needs to worry about that position now.
     
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    His thyroid condition is under control and I think he looked good too.
     
  17. ny2dave

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    Hate to see them cut Houston. I think that he has potential.
     
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    So when is Curtis going "somewhere?" If we are rebuilding why do it with a RB whose been in the league 11 years already, and last year looked slower than ever. Yeah, he's been great, but my vote is to cut him and Blaylock after July 1, and pair a really good YOUNG RB with Houston. I suppose you subscribe to Bradway and Herm's plan of having Martin start and run the ball every game until his contract expires at the end of the 2009 season. Martin gets all the credit for his rushing in 2004, but the OL gets all the blame for Martin's 2005. Good teams MOVE ON, not cling to past glory.
     
  19. Big Derty

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    Even though we can see a correlation form the last ten bowl games, that does not mean that we should not draft an RB for the future, it is a need of ours. Also one could find a large amount of stats that correlate for ones argument. Do you think if you showed this stat to the Texans they would trade out of their spot because "HISTORY" shows they wont win the bowl with him? I dont think so.
     
  20. phatnols

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    Denver is a horrible team to use as an example if you are lobbying for a 1st rnd RB.
    Not one of their RB's was a 1st rnd pick.
    Davis 7th, Gary 5th, Anderson 7th, Portis 2nd, Q. Griffin 4th, Bell 2nd


    This post shows you can get RB anywhere.
     

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