Giving Jenkins $20M. Good move?

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  1. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    1. Asomugha
    2 Huff(I wouldn't be supprised if he played CB when teams went with three WRs)
    3. Routt- not there yet but in time he could be better than asomugha . Revis probably played better down stretch than him, but you have to judge a player on the whole year.

    4 Revis- He looked great in second half and he pretty solid tackler. F washington really struggled last year. His tackling was almost as bad as Schweigert. (Big reason why Routt replaced him) SO Washington wouldn't beat out anyone off the year he had last year.

    Yopu look at what raiders could do in their Secondary. OLB Thomas Howard - IS so good in coverage that raiders don't utilize his other skills he possess fully. Thomas Howard played SS in college, and lined up last year at olb , safety and CB for the raiders.
    It all about stopping the run and getting team in obvious passing downs.
     
  2. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    He did play outside linebacker his final year at UTEP. He did see some time at DE and S during his college days, though.
     
  3. baamf

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    This makes much more sense than previous reports. From Cimini's blog...

    March 3, 2008
    Details of Jenkins' Jets contract

    The Daily News has obtained a breakdown of Kris Jenkins’ new contract with the Jets. Let’s just say it’s dramatically different than the five-year, $35 million deal (including $20 million guaranteed) that is being reported, courtesy of his agent.

    The highlights of the ACTUAL contract:

    • It’s five years, $30.25 million.

    • He’s due to make $18 million over the first three years, the best gauge of actual value.

    • Only $9.5 million is guaranteed, which is his total 2008 compensation ($4.5 million signing bonus, $750,000 base salary, $3.5 million roster bonus and $750,000 in workout/weight bonuses).

    • His 2008 cap number is $5.9 million.

    • In each year, there is a $500,000 workout bonus and a $250,000 weight clause. He will be weighed 10 times per season and he receives $25,000 if he makes his prescribed weight.

    Clearly, the Jets are concerned about Jenkins’ weight and conditioning, issues that dogged him in recent years with the Panthers. He was listed in the Panthers’ 2007 media guide at 349 pounds, but as reported today by the Daily News, he weighed more than 390 pounds at the end of the season.

    Analysis: This isn’t a bad deal for the Jets. Conceivably, they could cut Jenkins after one year and take a $3.6 million cap hit in 2009 while realizing a $2.8 million savings. Obviously, they’re not likely to cut him after one year, considering they gave up third- and fifth-round picks for him.

    This contract makes a whole lot more sense than the crazy numbers that have been flying around.
     
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  4. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    I LOVE these weight clauses.
     
  5. Mr Electric

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    Holy shit he's fat...more than 390 by the end of last season! Let's hope he can slim down to the 360s by training camp.
     
  6. pender30

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    I was just reading that on Cimini's blog. Those numbers sound a lot more reasonable.
     
  7. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    Joe, a little sports trivia for ya.. can you name this team?

    2003 - 4-12
    2004 - 5-11
    2005 - 4-12
    2006 - 2-14
    2007 - 4-12

    Which team is this that hasn't won more than 5 games for 5 straight seasons and hasn't finished higher than last place in a weak division for 4 years?
     
  8. Catfish Billy

    Catfish Billy Well-Known Member

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    The Raiders?

    That's insane. I thought of the 49ers first.
     
  9. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    This was posted by ESPN.com's Pat Yasinskas on Friday:

    Giving up a 3rd and a 5th isn't all that much for a 28 year old, 3-time Pro Bowler (whose only 1 year removed from his last appearance in Hawaii), especially when you consider NT is the cornerstone of the 3-4 defense and it likely would have taken a 3rd or 4th rd pick to draft the best available NT in the draft in Frank Okam (who not only has weight/conditioning issues, but issues about taking plays off).
     
  11. baamf

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    Wait until he finds out that the Jets practice/play out of NYC and are soon to be an all NJ team. Not to mention, if he thought Fox enjoyed robot players, wait until he gets a load of Mangini.

    I also think he will thrive here, but not for the reasons mentioned in that article...
     
  12. JetsLookingforDWare

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    I have alot of trouble buying Okam as the best NT in this draft...
     
  13. Chubby Franklin

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    I'm not aware of any other 34 run-stuffing NT in this year's draft. Have you read of any?
     
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    Rubin or Bryant just to name two...
     
  15. supersonic

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    Ok. This is a little more reasonable that what was initially reported. It is really not such a bad thing that he was over 350. That is more of an issue in a 4/3 than a 3/4. Obviously he needs to be in shape. If he can be in shape at 375, that is some serious beef in the middle.
     
  16. The Dark Knight

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    Yeah true, but if you add those up that is 19 wins, one more than the Patriots this year. Thus, the Raiders are the better team.
     
  17. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Theres a million things I disagree with here:

    1. Revis actually one of the best CBs in the NFL period last year. Sure that has something to do with the down years/injuries of top CBs like Bailey, Mathis, and Newman, but the guy played well ALL of last year.

    2. You make it sound like we did that "gimmick" one DL thing more than we did and thats why Revis did well.

    3. Obviously a team with a better pass rush will see their secondary improve. It's why it's a football TEAM. As far as individual talent, Revis looks like a lockdown CB for our D, which will allow this D more freedom in both the long and short term.

    4. It's a GOOD thing he looked good when the pass rush played well. Part of what makes that even more exciting is that he did fine when our pass rush sucked.

    5. LOL @ the idea that Huff and Routt are better players than Revis. The guy looks like he's got top corner in the NFL potential, period.
     
  18. Yisman

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    agreed, the whole value was to get him at a reasonable price. now, what was the point?

    I don't think Jenkins is worth all the guaranteed money in the long run, but I guess whatever it takes to get someone with talent who might be able to play the nose.
     
  19. nyjunc

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    If those are the actual #s then this is a GREAT deal.
     
  20. abyzmul

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    Starting to get it? Revis missed almost the entire rookie training camp, was started against Moss in his first NFL game ever (and Brady threw away from Revis for that entire game), and was consistent throughout the season. He did make rookie mistakes but the defensive line was a shambles until they got more creative with the schemes by midseason. Stop talking out of your ass, jeaux.
     

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