I don't think Chad is the answer any more, but he's still quite servicable. OLine should help him alot this year. Kellen MIGHT be better with an improved line... but if THAT fails... who do we turn to? We DO need a QB!!!! Im not sure if it's RYAN, but we do need a QB. I kinda prefer Brian Brohm over Ryan... and if I get him in the 2nd round, i'd pull that trigger in a heart beat. Gholston, DMC, C Long at the #6 is perfectly fine.
Agree with this post 100%. Despite the Patriots losing the SB this past season, they easily have the highest winning percentage in the NFL over the past few years and they've done that with an elite QB and a very good, physical defense. That is the formula that works now, that used to work, and always will work. The Trent Dilfers of the world are the exception, not the rule.
LET ME SAY THAT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT BRIAN BROHM IS THE BETTER QB THAN MATT RYAN, HANDS DOWN. If Petrino never left for ATL then dash in the middle of the night to be a Razorback and had stayed at Louisville, Brohm would have hands down been the first quarterback name coming out of every mouth and is still overlooked. I don't know why scouts are all of a sudden saying he'll fall to the second round because his numbers hands down are way better than Matt Ryan's. It's funny how everyone in the beginning of the college season felt that Colt Brennan was a day one pick but his name is nowhere to be heard in the quarterback conversation. As I said b4, I believe Brian Brohm is better quarterback than Matt Ryan and I can't wait to see what happens on draft day.
You guys have all left out the salient factor that enables the QB to function. Without that factor dominating, the QB cannot function -- he is on his back, or he is injured on a stretcher on the sidelines. The NYJ OL has been a laughing stock in the NFL long enough. I know people are extremely impressed with all the FA resumes we've collected so far this year. I truly hope all these resumes pan out. But how can we be satisfied with one FA campaign when we haven't seen the proof of success on the field in a real time game? Until we have proof, I say we should not let up on the OL and the DL. You can't get everything done in one off-season. We should try and concentrate on the line of scrimmage in off-season 08. Leave the skill players to next year.
How old is Fanecca and Woody? It's going to take at least 2 years to develop a rookie QB you can't wait they have to be brought in and brought up to NFL speed while. They develop with the team much like the last two SB teams did.
Chris Long or Gholston may be worth No. 6 money -- god knows we need to bust the other teams' QBs a lot more frequently than we did last year. But not a skill player. Not this year. If we're going to take WRs, or QBs, let it be after the guaranteed money shrinks to the single digit millions please.
work on the defense, STAY AT 6, take gholston or long. we could have an elite defense if we continue to build that up. if mcfadden is there, TAKE HIM NO-BRAINER
If Clemens fails this entire offseason would have been a waste of time, because we will have spent all that money, only to be 1 franchise QB away from doing anything with our new toys. If you draft one next year he's not ready to go until 2010, and we'll be rebuilding again with a new coaching staff and front office by then (again, assuming Clemens doesnt do well). I would take Pennington 1.0 or 2.0 if he hasn't had 2 rotator cuff surgeries. Add to that Ryan has a better arm than rookie Penny. Is bigger and stronger than Penny ever was, etc.
I dont know alot about Matt Ryan, but how much of a potential, and I say potential upgrade over Kellen is he presummedd to be? Based on what I have read (I never saw him play) he sounds like a high character guy with good intellegence and "all the tools" despite an average arm .... sounds alot like Kellens review before last years draft. I think the FO has invested in KC for at least one more year and the since Ryan does not have a "holy crap" factor like Peyton Manning when he came out, I think Matt Ryan rides the bench with a clipboard for some other team in 08.
ryan is not a true #1 draft pick, plays in the acc, not an immediate starter and probably will need a very long time to be groomed to nfl standards. we would still be talking about penny and kellen for a couple of years.
Well put, if KC fails as a starter than we are in a shit-ton of trouble. No viable backup (chad is done/won't be on the NYJ roster) and drafting one won't help for at least two years, by which our FA's will be 3 years older. I don't buy all the "we are a win-now team" BS out there. I think we are a win in 1-2 years team. How many people on here honestly believe we can make a SB run next year?
If KC fails for the 2008-2009 season after we fixed our O-line I suspect a QB would be a priority. I'm against trading up 100%
Well this time last year, the NYGs were forecasted to reach 8-8 to 9-7 in 07. It all depends on how the team comes together, once you reach a critical threshold of quality players. The difference between a sieve and an OL that makes Jacobs and Ward and Bradshaw dangerous beasts with the ball is jelling and communications. Once the fivesome becomes a well-oiled machine then they can have fun, a collective aggressive nasty attitude, and a lot of success. You guys seem to think that we need STARs and an ELWAY arm that makes things happen "No Matter What". But it is the team that has to work as a single heartbeat out there enough to where they find their rhythm and generate some harmony. You may have some 296 yard rushing phenoms, but they don't carry you to the Super Bowl often times. Team work. That's the Pats. That's the Colts. That's the Giants. that's not the NYJs ...yet.
If we stick to our knitting and build a successful OL and DL, there's no way our QBs and RBs and WRs are going to fail. The Big Uglies simply won't let them. The Big Uglies will just keep generating yet another opportunity for the skill players to succeed, and yet another, and yet another, and yet another still. Soon enough the ballet dancers will just get the hang of it.
Manning, Manning, Rothlisberger, Brady, Brady the last 5 SB QB's all with far better arms and ability to attack the field than our QB and none of them with great lines had a free ride.
i agree with you in terms of keeping the OL and DL strong to allow those behind them to do well. But, with the OL at a point where it can only be slightly improved and not fixed its time to focus or attention elsewhere. The playmaking, team leading QB is missing- i think now or next year is the time to find that guy.
