Really? How is Brick looking like he peaked? He played on a line with Mangold, tweedle dee and tweedle suck. Which one of these Tackles are better then Brick? Winston Justice-NOPE Marcus McNeill-EVEN Andrew Whitworth-NOPE Jeremy Trueblood-NOPE
If Leinart takes the Cards deep into the playoffs this year MAYBE I'll think, "Damn, we could've had him".
fuck!! i was eating lunch when i read this and spit my drink all over the keyboard. its a good thing i'm at work and it's the boss man's computer.
The Jets don't have Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin though...do they? Damn, we could've had both of them two...in Madden.
Brick was the right pick. The offensive line was in shambles. Then Mangold? Way more value than Lienart. Plus we were spared the flounderings of Paris Hilton. Some more cons: -Leinart was involved in a prolonged holdout with the Cardinals -2006 He suffered a sprained left shoulder (throwing arm) -2007 Leinart suffered a fractured left collarbone after being sacked -The mans' rehab dedication is questionable (j/k) Take notice the general direction the ladies arms appear to be headed. Actually these should be listed under pros. I know you can't help injuries but he would have been sacked plenty here. Clemens survived some vicious hits. I expect the offense to be less offensive this coming year with all the additions and "The Brick" is very much apart of that.
Vince Young was the guy worth taking over D'Brick and he was gone when the Jet's pick came around. I'm really glad we did not take Leinart or Cutler with the 4 because we'd be staring at an outright disaster right now on the line. I'm not remotely sold on D'Brick at LT but he's better than having Adrian Jones or an Anthony Clement-like unwanted free agent there.
You had the wrong Trojan in there. Leinart was an excellent field general and winner, and will be a solid pro, but he has maybe half the physical tools that Palmer has.
Totally agree about the points you made about him being a QB for fantastic college teams, and about his arm strength. A couple short weak throws that become interceptions would have created another Jets QB bashing crew to partner with the anti Penningtons in this forum.
Vince Young...a project #4 for a rebuilding franchise with no O-line? Cutler >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vince Young
lol i was always labeled the biased idiot for bashing him under the main argument of A)him being surrounded by one of the best college teams ever assembled B)Pac 10 defenses being notoriously soft. just about every pac 10 game is a shootout. C)his whole hollywood persona he had before even entering the draft. you dont like to wish failure on people, but its always good to vehemently call a bust and be correct. ill pull some bashing i did on him pre draft another time but yea some of us called it lol
i wouldve taken Young over Cutler, but I also wouldve taken Cutler. with a smile either one of those two over Brick. honestly. bricks solid but far from a pro bowler. which is what you expect when you go LT at 4. and I know people bash Young around here but TEN has done a complete hackjob of developing him.
It difficult to develop a successful system around a running quarterback. and there'll be people who'll try to put round pegs in square holes. Because if and when Young gets injured its going to be hard to find a replacement QB for that system.
Vince Young at 4 would have been ridiculous. We had no O-line, and we take a HUGE development project to jumpstart the project? It's not like he's had chopped liver to work with in Tenn. Norm Chow is considered a very good O-coordinator. Jeff Fisher is one of the best coaches in the league. Their O-line is top notch. They've got a solid running game. I don't see how Young can't...not throw INTs and throw some TDs. The recievers are meh names...but I doubt guys who made it all the way to the NFL are not talented. I'm not saying Young should be setting records at QB...but the guy isn't even a solid or even average QB. Honestly D'Brick was the smart pick...Cutler, Ngata, VD, or Williams were the only other guys I wouldn't have boo'd. Coupld questions: 1. D'Brick's 24 and has only been in this league two years. In his sophomore season he played next to the worst group of starting LG's in the NFL...and he still improved his game...how does he "only" look to be a solid starter? 2. What exactly is wrong with a solid starter? Even if this 24 year old guy next improves, despite elite physical tools and pedigree at the position, how is getting a solid, long term starter not a good thing at 4?
We can't agree on who'd we rather have picked in the draft but I know we all agree that we wish we were him. :metal:
cuz the guy cant run block and if you cant run block your not a franchise LT and the only time you draft a LT at 4 is for one of those. and for your information their recievers have always sucked. drew bennet was the best titan reciever since derrick mason left(who young never even played with). which doesnt say shit. then he went to STL. now justin mccareins might start for them. when you have a shotgun offense and you try to spread the field with 3 to 4 very average to downright bad players, its dumb to me. im not saying vince young is the shit all im saying is i wouldnt have minded us drafting young or cutler.thats all im saying. and people generally reply well who wouldve started at LT if we didnt draft brick. the question is they couldve actively pursued getting a LT. and whoever it was im sure they could have done an equal job to what brick has these last two yrs. the only upside in all this is he has a couple more years to develop. but its not like hes gods gift so whoever they wouldve found instead couldnt have been much worse and mightve been better.
Vince Young would have been an awful pick. I know how much "fun" it is to have a QB who can run and scramble and such, but I think that they end up being less successful in the long run. I'll admit that I wanted Leinart badly out of college. I know he might not have had the strongest arm, but I firmly believe that such immeasurable college success translates well to the next level. Cutler has been better so far, I will admit that. But I expect Leinart to prove himself to be an elite NFL quarterback in the upcoming years. As it were, D'Brickashaw Ferguson was the safe pick and has proved to be, at the very least, not a bust. We know that with him we are getting an elite LT against all but the strongest of edge rushers and one who has been consistently above average against the run despite playing next to average to below average to awful left guards throughout his short career.
Vince Young already has more come from behind wins than most NFL QB's have in a lifetime. He has more than Chad after just two seasons in the league. And that's with the Tennessee Titans, who had about as little talent as any team in the NFL before they drafted him.
