Looking for some Justice

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  1. GSourJr

    GSourJr New Member

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    Interested article from Pasq. at ESPN regarding USC OT Winston Justice, following the USC workout day.

    Don't now if this was posted, but it does call into question wheter DBrick is the man for us. Also, check out discussion of his linemate, Lutui.


    In behemoth offensive tackle Winston Justice, clearly the prospect whose draft stock was most enhanced by Sunday afternoon's pro day workouts, the Trojans will have their first top-round offensive line pick since Green Bay selected John Michels in 1996. Girthy guard Taitusi Lutui could squeeze into the bottom of the first round but, more realistically, is probably a second-rounder. And his running mate at guard, Fred Matua, might have moved himself into first-day consideration with a terrific pro day performance.


    "There's a lot of pride among the [linemen] here," said Lutui, who at 6-foot-3? and 330 pounds certainly fits the profile of what NFL teams are seeking in their interior linemen now. "There's a lot of history, we all know, too. With all the great [skill-position] players we have here, the linemen sometimes get lost in the shuffle, but we feel we're a big part of this program's success, too."


    With the emphasis on big, for sure.


    No one had a bigger or more impressive workout Sunday than Justice, who still must resolve some character issues with scouts, but might have catapulted himself into top-10 status with a tremendous overall performance. He checked in at 6-6? and 320 pounds, carried his weight well, and performed admirably in every drill. In the vertical jump, Justice did 39 inches, an incredible mark for such a big man. He registered 38 repetitions in the bench press. Justice pulled up toward the end of the 40-yard drill, clutching his right hamstring, but one AFC scout still said he clocked him in 5.03 seconds. The consensus was that Justice was in the 5.1s and would have run in the 4.9s were it not for the hamstring injury.


    In the pass-block drills, Justice, who has the kind of wingspan scouts love (34? inches) in pass protectors, looked very agile and naturally athletic, despite the sore hamstring.


    "Some of the stuff he did was absolutely off the charts for a man so big," Carolina Panthers coach John Fox said. "You don't see those kinds of workout numbers from a 320-pounder. He definitely helped himself."


    Fox noted that there are teams that actually like Justice a little better than they do D'Brickashaw Ferguson of Virginia, the consensus No. 1 tackle in the draft pool. After the Sunday workout, in which Justice looked both athletic and explosive, there is a lot to like.


    Teams will certainly conduct their due diligence into a pair of incidents that drew sanctions for Justice, one of which included his allegedly pointing a pellet gun at a student. But a few general managers on Sunday pointed out that Justice, rather than leave school and go into last year's draft, took the steps necessary to regain his eligibility and a spot on the 2005 Trojans roster, and had no recent off-field issues.


    Said Justice: "That stuff is all behind me. I'm just looking forward now."

    ? There's a lot of pride among the [linemen] here. There's a lot of history, we all know, too. With all the great [skill-position] players we have here, the linemen sometimes get lost in the shuffle, but we feel we're a big part of this program's success, too. ?
    ?G Taitusi Lutui
    It should be noted that another USC blocker of sorts, underrated fullback David Kirtman, whose selfless approach was cited by coach Pete Carroll in his opening remarks to scouts, raised his stock with a very solid audition. But the scouts really came away impressed by the Trojans' linemen.


    Lutui looks like a prototype NFL guard, thick and naturally powerful. His 40-yard time, in the mid-5.3s, was not dazzling, but Lutui is more athletic than people think, although he will be best suited in a power-blocking scheme.


    The lesser-celebrated Matua was 301 pounds on Sunday, but performed as many reps on the bench press as Lutui (26) and ran considerably faster (5.06) in the 40. A gritty in-line blocker, Matua was regarded as a middle-round choice by most scouts. But his pro day audition was so good, he may have moved himself into first-day consideration.


    No matter where they are selected, the three blockers definitely will all be chosen, and will represent the largest class of USC linemen to be drafted since 1983. Led by Matthews, the Trojans had three linemen in that draft as well, when the lottery consisted of 12 rounds.
     
  2. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    if we trade down a little than i think he would be a good pick (say the speculated trade with Detriot...)
     
  3. ButtleMan

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    I just said that in another thread.
    Trading down to around 10 to take Justice would be just awesome.
    And then to get Mangold or Eslinger in the 2nd/3rd round. The oline would be set.
    Marooney or Carpenter or Lawson would be there at 29 if we wanted as well.
     
  4. RochesterJet

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    LOVE THE POST! He is who I want, Not D'Brick. Justice will be able to come in and play RT for us... Jones-Kendall-Mangold-Moore-Justice. I would cream my pants if that was our starting line come training camp! We could then pick up a gard in the later rounds...4-5 for depth after Kendall.
     
  5. 88toon

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    I pray our strategy is to stay at 4. If Leinart and Mario are both gone, we HAVE to look for a partner to trade down to, if possible staying in the top 10. I'd be happy with Vince, Cutler, Justice, Ngata, or Davis if we don't take them at 4. Only people worthy at 4 to me without trading down are Mario and Leinart. And I started off not liking Leinart, but the more I see and hear, I think it would be a wise move should he slip. But by no means should we trade up.
     
  6. hotcoles87123

    hotcoles87123 Banned

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    trade down a few sopts I'll say to 9th for arguments sake, and pick up a 2nd rounder--

    9. Justice
    29. Maroney
    35. Lawson
    41. Mangold

    No way this will happen-- I think the last 3 will be slight stretches, but this would be one of the better scenero's for me anyway. maybe switch Justice with Cutler, then go McNeal, lawson, Mangold. I would love to trade down a few-- the top 10 in this draft if amazing, and many second rounders have 1st round talent-- why not stay in that 6-10 range- get a great player, and get another early second out of it. I would love to trade to 6-10. Mario is great, but I thought all along that a lot of his talent is wasted in a 3-4-- and the radio broadcast I heard today actually said the same thing about him. Also, with D Brick and A jones both strict LT-- picking a RT makes much more sence for our team, that is filled with holes, and is not in the best cap situation. There, I've said it.
     
  7. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Mangold WILL NOT last to 41... he could be gone by 15, and almost definatly by 35 (Pitt, Hous, NO)
     
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    hotcoles87123 Banned

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    No way in hell that guy is gone at 15-- but I already prefaced my statement by saying it probably would be a stretch where I had them.
     
  9. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    made a typo, i meant 29
     
  10. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    That'd be sick. That's exactly what I'd want outta this draft.
     
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    hotcoles87123 Banned

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    Looking at my keyboard, it would have to be QUITE THE TYPO to mix up 15 with 29.
     
  12. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

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    maybe thinking about it - he did cream in his seat and that's what caused such a big slip up (pun intended).
     
  13. BuffaloBills06

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    The only way you guys could get Justice is to grab him early, word out of Buffalo is that we will pick him with the 8th pick in the draft.
     

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