For all you old timers.... I read this on my Jet calender today, very uplifting do to our current state with these guys: ats_suck:
Does anyone else (other than me) think the Patriots rivalry began in earnest in the late 1990s, with Parcells coming over here and Kraft crying foul? I harken back to the '80s, and remember some vague annoyance at Tony Eason's direction when he led a come-from-behind win a couple of times, but even when the Pats made the Super Bowl against the Bills in 1986, I felt more sorry for them than anything else. The Fins and Raiders, those guys I've always hated. One is the handsome older brother with the mean streak who got all the girls and all the breaks, the other is the mutant cousin who lives on the roof and spits in your food when you aren't looking.
See, I saw those two as gutsy gamers who played the Jets well but could be counted on to lose down the stretch. Maybe if I saw more late '70s games with Grogan I would have thought differently, but Eason in the mid-80s was the first Pat that caused me to worry, and my dislike for the Patriots then was nowhere near what it is now.
That's ironic, I just read about that game last night in the Namath biography by Kriegel. As for rivalries, their real enemy back in the sixties were the Raiders.....
Yes until the Pats became good under BP there was no rivalary between the teams cause we both stunk year after year
Well, there always was a rivalry. Perhaps it didn't get obscenely intense until 1997, but there was always a rivalry. Just because two teams are bad more often than not doesn't mean there isn't a rivalry. The Falcons-Saints rivalry is one of the most heated in the annals of the league and those teams are rarely both good. Years the Patriots and Jets both made the playoffs: 1982 1985 (played each other in the playoffs) 1986 1998 2001 2004
So I guess nobody on earth has the right to talk about the Revolutionary War, The Dark Ages, or dinosaurs? Keith Hernandez is a big Civil War buff. That war took place before he was born. How dare he be knowledgable on the subject!!! For your info I was born in the 1970s and I know a ton about NFL history. This may come as a shock to some people, but I actually know about NFL events that occurred before I was born! hmy: I'm always disgusted when people make comments such as the one you just made.
I never wrote Jets-Pats was like Alabama-Auburn or Ohio State-Michigan or Redskins-Cowboys or Browns-Steelers.
Wrong on that one as well. First until 71 season the Colts played in the NFL & we played in the AFL. As they were as bad as us & the Pats there never was a intense rivalary between the teams even though we beat them in SB3. Most Colt fans rationalized that loss away as a blip on the radar screen. Some kind of fluke. Even after beating them the AFL played one more season & the KCCs won that SB beating the Vikes & then merger came along
Cause BP came along & improve NE so then it became somewhat of rivalary U know the whole NY & NE thing same as NYYs/NYMs & Sox. Even today it is no where as intense as the Miami/NYJ rivalary is. It moved up a notch or 2 bascially cause the papers built it up once BP deserted NE & came to us
Man I think I agree with champ. I didnt think much of the pats/jets before 97. I started going to games around 90. I got more into the jets when parcells came along but so did everyone
Like I wrote earlier, I'm saying it got intensified in 1997. But it was always there. By definition the teams have always been division rivals. There has always been a New York vs Boston rivalry in sports. Remember, the only time these teams met in the postseason was in 1985. Parcells was coaching the Giants at the time. Who remembers that 1984 game in Foxboro? That one stung, didn't it? It wasn't just because it was a bad loss. It was because it came against the division rival Patriots. It wasn't like the Jets were playing the Cardinals or 49ers or Bears or Packers.
