2 Games In - Your 53 Man Roster?

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  1. Popeye's Army

    Popeye's Army New Member

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    Practice Squad

    DL BRYAN MATTISON
    DL ROPATI PITOITUA
    LB BRANDON RENKART
    LB MARQUES MURRELL
    S JAMES IHEDIGBO

    OL JACOB BENDER
    OL NATE GARNER
    RB JEHUU CAULCRICK



    Ainge on IR
     
  2. VeniVidiViridis

    VeniVidiViridis New Member

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    I like this the best... except maybe drop Pociask for Wright.

    And Musa Smith will be a great goal line back/short yardage situation. The guy is a bowling ball.
     
  3. wewantsapp

    wewantsapp Well-Known Member

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    Like this one the best.
    But you'll probably have to drop Thomas Johnson at NT & add David Barrett to make 6 CBs on the roster.
    They just restructed Barrett's contract last week,......he's making the roster.
     
  4. Popeye's Army

    Popeye's Army New Member

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    If there's any place you want depth on a team, it's NT. Those big fellas get worn down over the course of a game and the season. Being able to rotate players in keeps everyone fresh. That's why I like to have an extra player there.

    As for Barrett, I think the restructuring makes him more likely to stay but not a lock. He still makes a ton of $$ for a backup CB.
     
  5. nyjetsrule

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    technically can't Mosely rotate through both spots if needed?

    Now i know madden isnt worth didly in reality, but not only is he listed at DT in madden, he kicks mad ass for me 11 sacks so far, and im going into week 14...
     
  6. billo83

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    Something some of you guys need to consider with Ainge and Clowney is that they will have to clear waivers before they can be placed on IR. IMO neither of these guys will clear waivers to make it to the IR or PS (and in the unlikely event that either makes it to the PS, they would be signed off it by another team very quickley). So to keep either you would need to place them on the PUP list or the active roster. If on the PUP, who do you waive off the active roster to active them? Or do you IR them from the PUP?

    I'm actually not sure if you can IR a first or second year player from the PUP without actually having to Waive them first, so that probably isn't an option either.
     
  7. Popeye's Army

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    Guys will get hurt over the course of the season. It happens every year. So Clowney would take one of their spots when his PUP time is over.
     
  8. billo83

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    It's not that simple. First, not very player that gets hurt during the season is out an extended period of time. In Clowney's case, the players(s) would need to be out say 6-8 weeks to justify putting them on IR. These decisions of course (placing on IR) would depend on the player in question and/or their position. This leads to my second point: if the player to be put on IR is not a WR or TE, they more than likely would be replaced by someone that plays that same position rather than Clowney because of depth concerns. I really hope we don't have someone getting hurt like this, but even so it's not a slam dunk that Clowney would take their roster spot.
     
  9. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    You don't have to clear waivers to go on IR.
     
  10. billo83

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    I'm not sure which scenario you may be referring to, but if it's a 1st year player - yes you do. That's why fan favorite Woodhead was Waived/Injured. He could have been signed by another team before hitting IR. This is because the players union wanted to prevent teams from stockpiling rookies on IR and avoid them being signed to the active rosters of other teams.
     
  11. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I've never heard of that. So if Jake Long, Phillip Merling, Donald Thomas, and Kendall Langford all broke their legs tomorrow they would have to be put through waivers to go on IR? That doesn't sound right to me.
     
  12. billo83

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    No, you would sign them to your active roster and then IR them. Think about it - if it were so easy to put a rookie on IR, why not do that with any of your picks that show promise but not good enough for the active roster yet. Why expose them to the PS where they can be signed away? Why is there so much debate about what to do with Ainge, Clowney, and Henry? If they could easily be put on IR, then there would be no debate. In Henry's case, he may not be good enough now for the active roster but he could be signed off the PS in a second if he even cleared waivers to begin with. So if IR was an easy option, why not invent and injury for him and hide him there?
     
  13. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    That makes sense. But then, why not just sign them all to your active roster and then IR them? Putting someone on IR frees up the roster spot doesn't it? I'm not trying to be a PIA, I just want to understand.
     
  14. billo83

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    Well I would hope you wouldn't have that many rookies injured and/or trying to hide to begin with, but the simple answer is yes. But remember to do so, you would have to cut another player to sign the player in question to your 53 man roster. So in your example, you would sign Jake Long to the active roster and then IR him. But lets say another injured rookie is a 5th or 6th rounder with promise, but nothing special right now. You could sign him to the active roster and then IR him, but what player would then need to be cut to make room for the player in question? Will the guy you need to cut clear waivers (assuming the team wants to sign this guy back to replace the rookie in question)? These are the tough decisions that need to be made. Obviously the better the rookie, the more likely he will be signed to the active roster and then IR. (hope the above is not too confusing!)

    Our own Ainge is a good example of this problem. He's obviously the 4th stringer right now, and the Jets must decide whether or not to carry 4 QB's (and then IR him) or expose him to being signed by other teams. They could try to sneak him through waivers and then IR him, but other teams may call the Jets bluff and sign him. Same goes for trying to waive him and place him on the PS. I just don't see that happening, so the Jets have a difficult decision to make. IMO they should sign/IR him and hope one of their "bubble" players clears waivers so they can be re-signed.
     
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    QB - Favre, Clemens, Ratliff, Brad Smith (4)
    RB - Jones, Washington, Chatman, Musa Smith (4)
    FB - Richardson (1)
    WR - Coles, Cotchery, Stuckey, Wright, Henry (5)
    TE - Baker, Franks, Keller, Dearth (4)
    OL - Mangold, Ferguson, Faneca, Woody, Moore, McChesney, Bender, Hunter (8)
    P/K - Graham, Nugent (2)
    D7 - Jenkins, Mosley, Pouha, Ellis, Kenyon Coleman, Barton, Bowens, Chatham, Cummings, Gholston, Pace, Harris, Thomas, Spencer, DeVito (15)
    DB - Carroll, Revis, Drew Coleman, Barrett, Miller, Lowery, Poteat, Elam, Rhodes, Eric Smith (10)
     
  16. man2man_cover

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    ACTIVE ROSTER
    PLAYER POS HT WT AGE EX
    Dwight Lowery DB - CB 5'11" 201 22 R
    Drew Coleman DB - CB 5'9" 175 25 3
    Darrelle Revis DB ? CB 5'11" 204 23 2
    David Barrett DB ? CB 5'10" 195 30 9
    Hank Poteat DB ? CB 5'10" 195 30 8
    Justin Miller DB-CB/KR 5'10" 196 24 4
    Abram Elam DB - S 6'0" 207 26 3
    Eric Smith DB ? S 6'1" 209 25 3
    Kerry Rhodes DB ? S 6'3" 220 26 4

    Kenyon Coleman DL ? DE 6'5" 295 29 7
    Mike DeVito DL ? DE 6'3" 298 24 2
    Shaun Ellis DL ? DE 6'5" 285 31 9
    Kareem Brown DL ? DE/DT 6'4" 295 24 2
    C.J. Mosley DL ? DT 6'2" 305 25 4
    Kris Jenkins DL ? DT 6'4" 349 29 8
    Sione Pouha DL ? DT 6'3" 325 29 4

    Cody Spencer LB 6'2" 245 27 4
    Matt Chatham LB 6'4" 250 31 9
    David Harris LB ? I 6'2" 243 24 2
    Eric Barton LB ? I 6'2" 245 30 10
    Bryan Thomas LB ? O 6'4" 266 29 7
    Calvin Pace LB ? O 6'4" 270 27 6
    Marques Murrell LB ? O 6'2" 250 23 2
    Vernon Gholston LB ? O 6'3" 264 22 R
    David Bowens LB ? O/I 6'3" 265 31 10

    Nick Mangold OL ? C 6'4" 300 24 3
    Will Montgomery OL ? G/C 6'3" 310 25 3
    Jacob Bender OL ? G/T 6'6" 315 23 2
    Alan Faneca OL - LG 6'5" 307 31 11
    D'Brickashaw Ferguson OL - LT 6'6" 312 24 3
    Brandon Moore OL - RG 6'3" 295 28 6
    Damien Woody OL ? RT 6'3" 335 30 10
    Nate Garner OL - T 6'7" 318 23 R

    Brett Favre QB 6'2" 222 38 18
    Brett Ratliff QB 6'4" 235 23 1
    Kellen Clemens QB 6'2" 223 25 3


    Tony Richardson RB - FB 6'1" 238 36 14
    Jehuu Caulcrick RB - FB 6'0" 255 25 R
    Thomas Jones RB - HB 5'10" 215 30 9
    Jesse Chatman RB - HB 5'8" 225 28 6
    Leon Washington RB-KR 5'8" 202 25 3

    Chris Baker TE 6'3" 258 28 7
    Dustin Keller TE 6'2" 248 23 R
    Bubba Franks TE 6'6" 265 32 9
    James Dearth TE-LS 6'4" 270 32 8

    Brad Smith WR 6'2" 210 24 3
    Chansi Stuckey WR 6'0" 185 24 2
    Jerricho Cotchery WR 6'0" 207 26 5
    Laveranues Coles WR 5'11" 193 30 9
    Marcus Henry WR 6'4" 207 22 R
    Wallace Wright WR 6'1" 200 24 3

    Mike Nugent K 5'10" 190 26 4
    Ben Graham P 6'5" 235 34 4

    INJURED RESERVES
    PLAYER POS HT WT AGE EX
    David Clowney WR 6'0" 188 23 1
    Erik Ainge QB 6'5" 221 22 R


    AVERAGE AGE: 26.96
     
  17. Popeye's Army

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    Both Chatham and Spencer ? A pox on you !
     
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    LOL! Well, we can't very well neglect Special Teams now can we? Besides, I projected 9 LB's which should be par for the course in a 3-4.
     
  19. alleycat9

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    this wouldnt be an issue with clowney as he is not a rookie?
     
  20. billo83

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    To tell you the truth, I'm not positive if this is for rookies and 1st year players, or just rookies. I believe it's both, since both rookies and 1st year players are eligible for the PS.
     

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