I am normally not one to complain on a day we win, but I have to say, today was an extraordinarily aggravating performance. Clearly, this is the way this season is gonna go....some good games, some crap games, and generally inconsistent play. This season has 7-9 written all over it. I could live with 7-9, coming off last year's disaster, if I knew we were on a trajectory for 12-4 or 11-5 next season. However, that isn't the case. By trading for Favre, we've gone "all-in" this season. Next year, we'll be starting over with Clemens, Ratliff, or someone else. In my mind, this makes this season a complete waste. Maybe we will sneak into the playoffs, but so what....been there, done that. Sustained success in the NFL relies on stable, quality play at QB. We need to find the starting QB for this team for the next 5 years, not bet the farm on an aging (overrated) superstar. This post doesn't mean I'm forgiving the horrible play calling over the last few weeks....some real head scratchers. But the thing that bothers me most is that we are not figuring out our long term QB situation. The team has compromised its future for the sake of selling some jerseys. Granted, it is a great marketing ploy, but that doesn't make it any easier to swallow. Happy to get the win, but pissed about the circumstances.... DbJ
I see it as quite the opposite DBJ. Getting Favre isn't so different then what the Phins did with Pennington. They went out and got the best available player to fill a position deemed to be a need. For the most part they're both stop gap players...one just happens to be a first ballet HOF player. Once Favre goes they'll be forced to go out and find a long term solution which is a step in the right direction. If we still had Pennington...well he might be around a bit longer then Favre which would drag out the QB situation even further.
Yeah Packers wasted last year starting Favre too. Look at how much it retarded Rodgers' development. They didn't go to the SB last year, so it would have been better if they had just cut him and let Rodgers get experience. The kind of experience that Smith got in SF, for example.
I don't think I'd be too happy to be a Dolphin fan at the moment either. Some positions you stop-gap, but QB isn't one of them (unless you are already a playoff team). This organization is rebuilding...I just wish we were trying to figure out of the QB of the future is on this roster. If we are going to struggle, I'd prefer to struggle with a young guy.
I Dont think its wasted where 4-3 after 7 games pretty much what i predicted and 9-7 10-6 isnt that far off. We must improve though and favre has to stop gunnin the ball into double coverages so much.
The only difference is that they have Henne learning and waiting, and the Jets have an awful Kellen Clemens and a question mark in Ratliff. Henne is reported to be the answer in Miami, but the Jets need that too. I said this a long time ago, but there needs to be an heir apparent... hopefully its someone in the draft, or Ratliff.
They can say whatever they want about Henne down in Miami, until the guy gets on the field and produces he's no better then a guy like Ratliff. Interesting though that Miami will be transitioning at QB in a season or 2, Buffalo already has it would seem, and who knows what going to happen with Brady in NE. It would really be something if a guy like Ratliff could step in and fill the role for the Jets. The issue is going to come to a head very soon. I'm more curious about who will be calling the shots when it does though.
I wouldn't be happy to be a Phins fan either (for a LOT of reasons), but hey, they've won more games then they did last season so Pennington has made a positive contribution. Just like Favre has here to be honest. We can analyze the issues he's had and the horrible picks he's thrown, but at the end of the day we've reached our pathetic win total of last season and there's still a lot of football to be played. Sure they could have looked a lot better doing it, but its the Jets. You know how it goes with this team.
You stop that with your fuckin..."logic" and shit. Favre was brought in to save Mangini's ass. There is no doubt about it. Mangini went out and spent like a kabillion dollars to field a one year team, and he went and got himself over his head. You're also forgetting that this team is *really* old. Really, really old. This is no stop gap dude. This is laying all the eggs in the basket. No doubt about it.
I don't think anyone is doubting the intent of the organization was to field a "win now" team, but that doesn't mean there can't be some positive side effects even if the "win now" team doesn't win. One way or the other there's a new QB on the horizon and the process was sped up with the dumping of Pennington and the signing of Favre.
We've still got a shot at 10-6 this year if the Jets jell. Let's see what next week in Buffalo brings. If we somehow pull off an upset there both teams will be 5-3 at the midway point. I think the points on this being the highwater mark for the current build are probably right though. There are as many people likely to drop out quickly from this team as there are good players likely to emerge. That leaves the core of the team likely to be really lonely in a couple of years time. Hopefully there'll be a strong personality in-house by then to make sure Revis and Harris don't go to waste in the same way that Parcells salvaged something before Glenn and Lewis were done.
What's a strong personality? I think Revis and Harris are going to be Jets for life. Call it the optimist in me, but footballs the kind of sport where that can happen.
The team isn't really old. Maybe at a few positions but that's kind of the point of this thread anyway, that we need a QB in place for the future. But if you look at the major positions, we're starting a ton of guys that have been drafted just the past few years. If anything, I think the team is really young and just has a few old geezers as stop gaps that really should go away soon.
Well the easy answer is we won't. We can always hope for 7 turnovers again though. That seems to be the only way we can beat a legitimate team.
When the season started -- I would have taken 4-3. The conventional wisdom is that most NFL teams are 8-8 (+ or - 2). Meaning there are a few very good teams (Titans, Giants, Steelers) A few horrid ones (Bengals, Lions) And everyone else needs a break or two. The Jets were not going to be 7-0 or 6-1. So you can complain about one game -- i think thats last weeks against the raiders.
What the hell are you talking about??? Is'nt that the first goal for any team? To be anywhere close to Super Bowl, don't you have to 'reach' the playoffs first??? Get a clue I hate darksiders...darksiders like you will only show up on this board when things are not going as smooth. Im sure only 3 weeks ago, you were rooting for Favre...just wouldn't admit it.
Barely scrape by the Chiefs??? We had them by the neck and were going to take a 10 point lead late in the game when Favre threw a pick 6. Change that one play, and end up getting 7 more pts...Chiefs end up getting 7 fewer points...Final? 35-17...Thats a blow out game son...just one play is what kept the Chiefs in the game...not the other way around...Just get a clue some of u guys.
