Strictly Jets vs Patriots in my mind. Dolphins still a year or 2 away. What we have is two opposites. One team has IMO a top 5 offense and a bottom half of the league defense while the other has a top 3 defense and a bottom half offense. The question will be which team will be able to improve their respective sub par unit over the course of the season. For the Pat's D to improve, the coaching staff needs to develop a scheme that will both allow the Pats to put pressure on the QB and mask the inexperience of their young cb's and lb"s. I think they need to take a page out of sexy Rexy's playbook and blitz a hell of a lot more than BB has typically done in the past. It may not work, but they will get crushed if they can't get to the QB. Three things need to happen for the Jet's O to get better. The O line needs to fill that G position, many of you pooh poohed Faneca leaving but his leadership and experience may have been more important than most thought. Sanchez needs to improve his decision making, he has all of the physical tools but he lacks a little between the ears. Another season of constant improvement is needed. The Jet's will not win if you get last years Sanchez. With the Jet's awesome D and mediocre O, chances are they will be in a lot of close, low scoring games. That said, Folk needs a monster year as PK. He has been good in the past and he needs to get there again. If he stinks like last year, he could cost the Jets 2-3 games. IMO, both teams will finish in the 9-7 to 11-5 range. Division games will be huge this year. If the Jets stay healthy, I give them the slight nod for the Division. I think the Jets D will serve them better during a season in which both teams face some very potent offenses. Can't wait for the season to start to see how it all unfolds. 9/19 is going to be unbelievable.
Patriots D getting raped by Sam Bradford AND the 2nd string offense is sad. Hell the Patriots D might make Sanchez look like Joe Namath when they play.
Thank you for your astute football knowledge. Who gives a fuck about paragraphs? I think I'll go through your old posts and look for grammatical errors.
"Man, my buddy and I had the same Revis jersey on and we were getting heckled like crazy. Yeah, I know, Revis hasn't signed. Let me fuckn' live." I'm guessing there were two separate jerseys. If you were in the same jersey as your buddy, maybe you should have been heckled.
Interesting post. I agree with most of what you wrote but I also think that the Jets have the potential to have an above average offense while the Pats have the potential to have an above average defense. My guess is one of the two teams will exceed expectations on their perceived weaker side of the ball, while the other won't be so fortunate. The team that does will be in the 11-5 to 12-4 range and win the division.
A 2am post, after a night of heavy drinking. But I get your point. It wasn't a matter of grammar. I could care less if someone writes "your" instead of "you're", but if you want people to read your posts, you have to break it up a bit.
Good post, I think the Jets offense will be fine...there's way too much talent for it to be any other way
I agree with you on just about everything, but I am not counting the dolphins out quite yet (as much as it pains me to say) Sanchez has yet to show much improvement from last year; I'm hoping this is just preseason lack of planning, but I'm not convinced yet. The O line did not come to play last night, I'm not sure how much of it has to do with missing Faneca's leadership, but there are some definite issues when D'Brick is getting beat inside. Folk....well, coupling an inconsistent kicker with an inexperienced qb is going to lead to some severe nailbiting later in the season.
I agree completely with the analysis at hand, however because the Jets have a little more star power and fire power offensively than the Patriots do defensively, it might take the Pats a little more scheming and a few extra weeks than the Jets Offense. In turn that will cost the Patriots a game or 2 difference than the Jets at the end of the season. If the Pats defense hits a stride by week 8 or 9, I would be surprised, let alone week 11 or 12. I fully expect a 2-2 start by the Jets, with a new offense and Sanchez still learning, they wont hit a offensive stride until week 7 or 8, a few games after Santonio gets back, I wouldnt be surprised if around the middle of October the Jets start clicking on all cylinders and end up in the top 5 defensively and top 10-12 offensively. Thoughts?
1. I believe it is a bit too premature to judge on either franchises based on the preseason display. I could make only a few cases out of it, really. 2. I don't think Pats D is as porous as some people make it to be. If at all, Devin McCourty seems like a pretty competent CB in the backfield. He looked decent against Donnie Avery, from what I've seen. 3. What was conspicuous with Jets O so far was Mark's penchant for picks. If he keeps up with his a pick a game ratio, he will have improved his INT total by 4 picks this season. Not a good sign. 4. Pats taking a page or two from the Ryan's playbook - negative. Rex does the defense upside down. Conventionally, it is the job of the front seven to create pressure, so the secondaries can pick off the bad passes. It's the other way around here in NY - it is the secondaries who basically blanket the receivers with coverage. It is then the job of the front seven to go after the sitting duck that is QB. Pats D is not run that way, nor should it be. Devin McCourty might be a fine cornerback, but Pats secondary in general won't be able to shut down the passing game. They need to go conventional, and create pressure from the front 7. They need a savvy ILBs who knows how to time their delayed blitz like Tedy Bruschi.
I know, I'll wait until after the season to make my observations. That way I'll have a better chance to be right.
So a Pats fan comes on the board and posts a very measured, objective, and intelligent post about the season and the two teams with no BS and no trash talking. Why don't we give him some credit instead of criticizing whether he hits the enter key enough or for supposedly analyzing the season based on preseason games. By reading the rest of the threads on this board, our season went down the toilet last night based on a preseason game. Thanks, TonyIommi, for some good football discussion. I think your post was very much to the point in one paragraph. Stay classy, GG members.
I don't think you can reasonably expect the Jets to be a top 10-12 offense. A top 10-12 QB is required. I am not panning Sanchez, I just don't think you can expect him to be an upper half QB. He is too inexperienced at this point. I do agree that by mid season he should be substantially improving. The key for a young QB is to get past the rough patch. The reason most don't is they are not blessed with a run game or defense such as the Jets. Sanchez doesn't have to be great for the Jets to win and get to the playoffs. What you saw last year with the Jets is going to be what you get this year.
Come on guys, this guys bein nice. There's no need to blast this post. Although I still hate the Pats as a team more, their fans have been quite reasonable after Mangini had left and the Phins fans are the ones now acting like assholes and doing things like the "Henne >>>>>>> Sanchez" stupid shit. Tony, I see this as a tough competition for the division this year. I have a feeling we will split the series 1-1 again this year with you guys so it will be a race to beat other teams. The Pats are more of a sure bet because of recent history and #12 is on the field. Talent-wise, however, the Jets look better this year IMO. I realize we only won the battle on paper and that means nothing right now, so we will see. Revis not showing up to camp has made me take a step back and realize this more than likely won't be the year we win it all. This isn't because of Revis himself (our defense can still thrive without him), but because we were terrible last year on offense and Sanchez has yet to prove he can provide a steady year at QB. That being said, both teams have great coaching. There is no doubt both teams can certainly coach up many players. Nevertheless, I would be more shocked not seeing the Jets succeed with the talent their they have on their current roster for their offense,than the Pats with a still very young defense.
I think crowning preseason paper champions is absurd. Hell, I think crowning anyone after 4-5 weeks of regular season is silly, especially when the Jets could easily start 2-2 or 1-3. Look at Tennessee and Denver last year. Polar opposites.
Also, a year off the Fins going 4-2 in the division, riddled with injuries everywhere, and vastly improving in the offseason, it's a bit silly to count them out.
