Why is this a foregone conclusion that 2013 is THE make or break year for Ryan? His contract is through 2014, isn’t it? So what stops Jets from keeping him for 2 years: 2013, the re-building year and then 2014, with the “new and improved” team? I understand that coaches are usually not kept for the last year of contract – they are either fired or extended. Woody likes Ryan though… My point is: don’t be overly surprised if Ryan gets 2 more years to play with, not one.
But that would mean he's the czar of the New York Jets and the darksiders would be right.... That being said, I see what you're saying. The only way Rex gets fired next year is if the bottom just completely falls out (5-11 or worse)
I don't 2013 is make or break at all. I do think if the Jets collapse into a formless heap and win 3 games or less he's definitely gone. I think the break even number for Rex is 6. If the Jets can win 6 games in a rebuilding year and look focused and disciplined in the process he's going to get 2014 at least.
It still depends. As Bradway says, if we go into utter dismay and are able to get top 3 pick in the draft, it might be a perfect time to get an offensive minded coach and coach up the QB we are drafting. If we plug along and remain competitive during a rebuilding year, meaning no multiple blowouts, offense looks below average not atrocious, defense holds steady, he probably gets another year to follow through with the process.
While Ryan isn't a perfect HC, he's probably the best coach in a long while. You don't get players at the SB talking as highly as they are about a former coach that is with another team. I know, I know, I admitted my man crush on Rex many times but he's a good coach even when I take off the green glasses. And there is no reason to think that he can't evolve into an offensive genius like Belicheat did. A top 10 QB can change the persona of any HC.
6 wins is kinda the line for me as well. That said, it'll truly depends on how the team looks. If there are 5 win, but obvious steady improvement, I'd vote for giving Ryan another year. Otherwise -- bye-bye.
I think it has to do with a lot of TBD factors. - Final record - His overall attitude - Team's preparedness - Does the team quit on him? - Ability to make necessary decisions regarding key positions I think a lot of what he does this upcoming year will determine his fate. I am not sold that 2013 is a lame duck year but he is most certainly on the VERY hot seat.
There is no substantiation at all from any credible source that Rexy has "one year" that is all complete BS. RR is HC as long as WJ wants him to be HC. Cycling through good young HCs has been proven to be a very dumb way to run an NFL organization. WJ sort of understands this.
I hope Rex gets another year after 2013 with a newly drafted QB and this offensive coordinator and GM. He's on the hot seat though.
I should have thought it was obvious, considering that countlesss teams have done it. If the Jets tank 2013, they fire Rex with a year left. Like countless teams have done. Why is this thread even here? Here's a new thread: What happens if I step on gum in the summer?
The team has to show more than it did last season. There really can't be a string of embarrassingly bad losses. The "circus" has to be toned down and by that, I mean the constant media attention has to become more positive than negative. Rex also has to show improvement on his ability to manage the entire team instead of one unit. All in all, I can see Woody sending Rex on his way IF no improvement is evident. That could be 6 wins which would match 2012. Hard to say what Woody's criteria will be. Hell, Rex could even get an extension with 6 wins. Nothing this team does surprises me anymore.
Since we can't as of today factor in either the roster or whether and to what extent the injury bug hits next year, it's not so much a given overall record, as you say, as how the team looks. how much effort and coordination it shows game by game. There were games this past season and even in 11 where the team did not really show up. And the O, or parts of it, sure looked like they gave up in a few games last year. We can blame Sparano and of course Sanchez for most of those issues, but Rex is the HC. Speaking personally I hope he can cut down on the nonsense statements in post game pressers. Back in 11 I was on several occasions at first bewildered. At certain times this past season that was more like becoming angry that he was expecting people to buy the crap he was selling, like why he suited up Tebow for the Jville game when he was hurt and not used. And I hope nothing more like the foot fetish or tatoo with 6 on it comes out. Enough with the creep factor, Rex. But I digress.
Rex will be a lame duck in 2014. Woody has to extend Rex after 2013 or fire him. Allowing a coach to enter the last season of his contract is not a great situation.
He will be resigned if we show deep improvement. He will be fired if we go no where or regress... Simple as that!
Because people for some reason are taking for granted that after 2013 there will be a decision on Rex's future with Jets. I haven't seen anyone who does not subsribe to this theory. I suppose there 2 answers to your question: 1. "To educate a fellow Jets fan (me)", and of course 2. "To give abyzmul an opportunity to mock someone other than Hobbes".
I think it is up to Idzik. I think Woody asked him to swallow Rex for a year. owners don't like lame duck coaches anyway. If Idzik feels that they are not a fit he can go elsewhere. If he likes Rex and Rex does a good job, he will probably stay. I doubt he gets an extension unless he really does something special.
:rofl2: Rex is your HC in 2014. Sanchez goes to the playoffs for 3 years out of 5. You chuckleheads line up to fellate MM.
The reason why coaches don't tend to be lame ducks (they're either extended or fired) is that if they are in their final year you have the very untenable situation that the coach has little to lose by making decisions that might be in the team's short-term interests, but are definitely not in the team's long-term interests. You're also in a lose-lose situation: if the team does poorly there will be a media storm speculating when he is going to get fired, and if the team does well there will be a media storm about how he'll leave the team high and dry at the end of season, since he'll be in great demand around the league. For these reasons I will be very surprised if Ryan coaches the Jets in 2014 on the last year of his contract. I also think the biggest determinant of whether Ryan gets extended or not hasn't been mentioned very much - how he gets along with Idzik. If Idzik likes him he'll be back, pretty much no matter what; if Idzik doesn't like him he'll have to at least get to the AFC Championship game to be back (something I think is extremely unlikely). IMO the team's record actually matters relatively little.
