Callahan a major asset - Hutchinson, THE STAR LEDGER

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  1. notjustQBs

    notjustQBs New Member

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    Here's the URL for those of you who need to sip the last drop: http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2008/06/callahan_a_major_asset.html

    "...Callahan a major asset
    by Dave Hutchinson
    Saturday June 07, 2008, 4:35 PM

    New assistant head coach/offense, Bill Callahan, whose main responsibility is the offensive line, is coaching to rave reviews and is a big upgrade from former offensive line coach Tony Wise.

    "Callahan, formerly head coach of the Oakland Raiders and the University of Nebraska, has brought an in-depth knowledge of offenses and a keen eye for detail with regards to technique along the offensive line.

    "Also, Callahan is excellent at explaining to his offensive line why he wants things done a certain way.

    "Conversely, Wise was more accustomed to working with veteran offensive lines in Dallas and Miami and he wasn't very detailed oriented. With youngsters Nick Mangold and D' Brickashaw Ferguson on the Jets offensive line, the unit needed direction. That's why the lost of veteran Pete Kendall was so criticial last season...."

    Perhaps the head coach is pretty dependent on his position coaches for input on who can do what better. I know from my own experience that "micro-managing" sure has its limitations.

    Tony Wise appears to have made some massive errors on personnel and what he could do with them -- regardless of his experience or "techniques".

    I think that "injury-prone" skill players are often the victims of such situations -- You would have a helluva time convincing me that Chad or Kellen or Jay Fiedler went out deliberately to prove their fragility once more in those cases where "revolving doors" were masquarading as offensive linemen.

    As I have pointed out in other posts, my feeling is that this OL problem that kills the offense (and injures skill players0 is a position coach failure more than anything else. And thus, the buck stops with the HC.

    How quick do you pull the trigger on a position coach that has obviously laid a big one?

    Did Mangini do it quickly enough?

    Was his timing on changing coaches motivated by his realization of Wise's failures or by the "talented" Bill Callahan's availability?

    Raider Joe, for all his prejudices, points out an interesting issue:

    Bill Callahan talked up massive guards for his zone blocking scheme preferences while holding forth as the HC of the Raiders.

    What's he doing now with our guys, who don't seem to fit that prototype?

    Somebody should ask him to compare the differences in strategies available to him with different size / speed OLs.
     
  2. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    He's going to pay huge dividends this year. I am very excited about our OL this year. And Thomas Jones is going to have a huge year
     
  3. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Hm...I see Raiderjoe has made us insecure about the size of our O-line. I don't see the issue.

    Faneca is a proven commodity...Mangold is very big and stout for a C...and Moore was part of an O-line that blocked for the leagues leading rusher in '04.
     
  4. RevisCB

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    Im comfortable with our o-line and that comfort turns into excitement when i think who will be leading them. Callaghan is proven, and it makes a very god point that with the young line we had they needed direction, something they did not receive. Well now with direction and veteran leadership on the line, they are going to improve two fold, protecting the QB and opening up holes for TJ.
     
  5. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Didn't the Colts win a SB with completely undersized Linemen?
     
  6. Mr Electric

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    Those linemen worked well as a whole and in that system.

    They also won the Super Bowl because of awesome defensive play and they have one of the best quarterbacks of all time throwing to a bunch of weapons on offense.
     
  7. Raiderjoe

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    Callahan blocking system is not a zone blocking scheme, but more a man on man blocking scheme. Think Mo Collins and F middleton two massive guards that went 350 plus.

    The only OLIneman Jets have that probably fits Callahan ideal olineman, is Jets Center Nick Mangold.
     
  8. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    YEa that same Oline in 04 when they needed short yardage, (team knew they were running) weren't very good at converting those short yardage situations. Why? Because those undersized olineman couldn't move anyone off the ball. Raiders with their massive sized Oline (under callahan) were amost automatic in short yardage situations.
     
  9. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    YEa but the Colts weren't trying to play smashmouth football with that undersized oline. There a big diffrenece . NOw Vince are the Colts more a pasasing offense or a running offense.
     
  10. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Who said anything about smash mouth football? The fans?? Ok, that's nice.
     
  11. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Yup. This team wants to beat people down, on both sides of the ball
     
  12. Raiderjoe

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    We had this discusion already. NObody said anything from jets staff about what kind of offense they wil be , but the moves they have made, make you believe, they want to run the football alot. For example the signing of FB tony Richardson. You don't bring in a true blocking Fb if the plan isn't to run the football. Jets have brought in Alot of rbs this offseason. Haven't really addressed their WR situation(Keller more down the road than next year) You still have one of the worst QB situations in football. Now Watson what do you make out of those facts. Jets will try to be like Raiders. Use the run to set up their passing offense.
     
  13. Tight

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    I really hate this guy.... I wonder if he goes to other boards and tells people there team is trying to mimic the raiders, I also wonder if hes so far gone that he thinks the entire league is trying to copy the raiders. I dont get it , I just dont...
     
  14. SI_Jets_Fan

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    Why get upset? Whare did the Raiders pick in this past draft again? yeah, I thought so.
     
  15. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    ah yes. we will be mimicking the Raiders because that's such a revolutionary and innovative idea that the Raiders invented: using the run to set up the pass. that is genius.

    you are laughable.
     
  16. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    Are you for real... this is football 101 for every football team, except maybe the Patriots, who can do both...

    Dude... take the summer off and develope some new material... this is real real old.
     
  17. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Um...there isn't a single player from that '04 O-line still on this team.

    Can you *please* cut this shit out? Or can we just ban him?

    I mean it's cool that theres actual traffic going on...but holy shit dude shut the fuck up. Or go fnid your own place to talk non-sensical bullshit about your team....the internetz is ginormous and you really went and joined 2 (maybe more) Jets boards just to do this shit? WTF kind of life do you have going for you? Do you really care *that* much?
     
  18. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    All I needed to hear.

    BTW its nobody heard anything from the Jets staff. "Will" has 2 "L's" in them.
     

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