Chad has only one 4th quarter comeback TD with under 8 mins left in the game. I thought this topic needed to have its own thread. Chad Pennington has never had a 4th quarter comeback in his NFL career. Aren't comebacks one of the measuring points when it comes to QBs. For anyone here to continue and support Chad is just ridiculous, we have gone as far as Chad can take us. Vince Young in Tennessee hasn't even started a full season yet, and he has 8 fourth quarter comebacks. And if you are trying to tell me that the Titans defense won those games (as someone did in another thread) the answer to that is no, Vince Young drove his team down the field (sometimes single-handedly) to win the game in the fourth quarter 8 times! Chad does not have it, and I sure as heck don?t want a QB with no fourth quarter comebacks being behind center. Chad has never done it, he can't do it with his arm, and he sure as heck cant do it with his feet. Chad was first exposed back in 2002 when we lost that divisional playoff game in Oakland. Good defenses shut Chad down, plain and simple, no one can argue differently. Defenses now know how to play Chad, and the results will not change. Kellen Clemens must start next week! Give us a reason to believe and actually look forward to watching this team, because right its oh so painful.
100% agree and I thanks for the stat because I didnt know that. Ive wondered that before though as he always seems to come up short when we are behind. Clemens has to get a chance because we need to see if he actually is our future or if someone like Tim Tebow (if he leaves FLA), Brohm, or Woodson would make better choices.
Okay, he's not exactly John Elway or Dan Marino and maybe not even Vince Young, for that matter. However, Pennington has authored several 4th quarter comebacks. Week 14 2002 Denver up 13-9 entering 4th Jets win 19-13 Week 10 2003 Oakland up 21-10 entering 4th Jets win 27-24 Week 12 2003 Jaguars up 10-6 in 4th Jets win 13-10 Week 5 2004 Bills up 14-13 in 4th Jets win 16-14 Week 6 2004 49ers up 14-9 entering 4th Jets win 22-14 Week 16 2006 Dolphins up 7-3 in 4th quarter Jets win 13-10
Ok you got me, I must have the stat wrong. I'm checking on this right now, it must have been in the fourth quarter with 8-10 minutes left in the game. Sorry guys, but I am some what right on this, and I will check on all of those games.
The Jets were trailing 14-13 midway through the 3rd quarter. The Jets took a 21-14 lead in the final minute of the 3rd quarter. They never relinquished the lead and therefore it does not qualify as a 4th quarter comeback.
Yeah, the 1st on that popped into my mind was just last year when he hit Cotch over the middle in Miama... Just another attempt to kick the man when he's down...
Ok here we go. Week 14 2002 Denver up 13-9 entering 4th Jets win 19-13 Jets take the lead 16-13 with 14:43 left in the 4th. Week 10 2003 Oakland up 21-10 entering 4th Jets win 27-24 Jets tie the game at 24 with 1:09 left in the 4th, and win with a FG in OT. Week 12 2003 Jaguars up 10-6 in 4th Jets win 13-10 Jets take the lead 13-10 with :26 seconds left in the 4th quarter. Chad throws a TD. Week 5 2004 Bills up 14-13 in 4th Jets win 16-14 Doug Brian with the game winning FG with :58 seconds left. No touchdown. Week 6 2004 49ers up 14-9 entering 4th Jets win 22-14 Jets take the lead 15-14 with 11:41 left in the 4th quarter. Week 16 2006 Dolphins up 7-3 in 4th quarter Jets win 13-10 Jets take the lead 10-3 with 8:04 left in the fourth quarter. In the above games the Jets never lost the lead after taking it So with that being said Chad has scored ONE fourth quarter comeback touchdown with under 8 minutes left in the game in his career. Sorry I was wrong guys, glad we could clear this up.
I remember seeing a stat during the Buffalo game where they claimed Chad had led 9 game winning drives in his career. Just throwin' that out there... I really can't remember seeing 9 game winning drives from Chad though. Either way I've seen enough from him. Time to make the switch.
Even if Chad had a zillion 4th Quarter comebacks he is pretty much done. There just is not enough zip in his arm. I am not a hater, I admire his leadership and toughness. However this is a professional sport. When professionals can no longer handle the rigors and demands of their respective sport they are pushed aside,retired etc. It happens in every walk of life not just Pro Sports. Time to move on from the Chad era.............. sad but true.
Oh now you need TDs, wins aen't good enough ou needtos core 7 when you only need 3. I get it He'salso led us back other times onyl tos ee teammates screw it up such as heading for the tying TD at Chi in '02 and Chrebet tries to jump in toe th EZ from the 15 and fumbles, leaing us back from 14 down against the Giants midway through the 4th in '03 only to see his K and D blow the game, at Miami in '03 we got screwed on a blown 2 pt conv call which was the diff in the 2 pt loss, heled us back to tie at SL in '04, le us back fro the go ahead TD w/ a torn rotator cuff against jax in 2005 but Chrebet couldn't hold onto a TD pass and we settled for OT, led us back down 24-0 vs. NE in '06 but the D allowed the Pats to basically run out the clock in the 4th after we pulled w/in 3, led us to tie at Cle but bad call by officials takes away last second tying TD at Cleveland. You need the help of your teammates to have these comebacks.
PWNED as the youngsters say... @OP Stupid thread, do you watch games, I have seen many times they throw up his come from behind stat, cause guess what we are usually trailing in the 4th. I think the sun in FL does brain damage to people form up north.
no but hes been here long enough to put up more than 6 4th qtr comebacks. hes gotta go, theres no more need for threads to say why he shouldnt play. if you want to know why watch a game on sunday its now painfully obvious. i appreciate what hes done for the organization but if he really wants to contribute he's better served coaching up Clemens and holding a clipboard.
The only time Elway won superbowls is when he didn't have to have 4th quarter comebacks, they won going away. Much better strategy.
The other way of putting that is that when Elway did not have to carry the team on his shoulders they were capable of winning back to back Super Bowls, because he was a great QB. Brett Favre has been in a similar position in Green Bay his entire career. Dan Marino never had a season that he did not have to carry the Dolphins on his shoulders. Joe Montana, Troy Aikman and Steve Young never had to do really heavy lifting, just play 100% and their teams were good enough to win Super Bowls when QB'd by a great player.
The key stat for Chad has always been the game state. Once the Jets get down by 9+ points he has had a miserable record in terms of bringing them back at that point. Sometime this season Vince Young will pass Chad in terms of fourth quarter comebacks overall. He already owns him in terms of down two scores or more and winning.
Very interesting stat Cakes. What is very apparent is since his first shoulder surgery he has done it once against a 6 & 10 Miami team that put 10 points on the board.
If our starting QB has only 1 fourth quarter QB comeback TD with under 8 minutes to go in the game in 61 games played. Thats is down right horrible, we measure QBs on come from behind wins in the fourth quarter, do we not? And I agree with everything you said. I like Chad as a person, not as our starting QB.
