Like the title says. Most analysts had pretty good things to say about our 2013 and 2014 drafts, so where did it go wrong? Is Idzik a moron, or is the coaching just unable to develop this team?
Who are you referring to from the last two draft classes? Those are the only two classes we can be talking about. Regardless, I don't think it's on Rex considering the way he's plucked defensive guys out of thin air the past few years. But again I don't see many guys that were supposed to pan out in year 1 that didn't.
Coaching hasn't been able to get much out of anything, particularly receivers. A lot of that falls on Morningwhig and Lal (which is surprising given the decent job that Lal did during his tenure in Oakland). Perhaps the coaches' philosophies don't match well, in which case, players may not be well trained for their roles in the system. All conjecture though. Who knows.
The inability of Schotty/Marty M to develop offensive talent has been glaring. Sanchez, Geno, Stephen Hill, Dustin Keller, Vlad Ducasse.....high draft picks whose ceiling became lower after becoming Jets. Never seemed to play to a level equivalent to where they were drafted.
So we can't judge Geno after two years, but we can judge Idzik's draft classes? You're so all over the place man. I'm embarrassed FOR you.
I've said bring in another QB either draft or FA and make Geno earn it. Has Geno look like shit yes he has but he also has shown flashes he can be a good QB. I'm not saying just hand him the job.
2 g.m.'s picked the same amount of picks for 1 head coach with what is looking like the zame results. Stud dlineman and not much else. Common denominator
Both. This is more on Schotty than Idzik at this point but Schotty would bring in meat heads and Rex wouldn't put them in a position to win or develop into something better.
the 2014 draft is all on Idzik. You can't blame that on Rex because the players have been horrible and theres nothing he could've done to develop or ruin them in such short time. The 2014 draft is going to haunt this team for awhile. It was such a deep draft that is already making a huge impact in this league. Everyone else is getting better with that draft and the Jets didn't. That's what is going to hurt for a long time.
I think Idzik has drafted fine Sheldon Richardson is looking like an All-Pro player and obviously Dee Milliner hasn't worked out, but he was the right pick at the time. He never missed a game in college so it's not like he was labeled as an injury prone player, it has just been extremely unfortunate. We saw his potential and if he stayed healthy we could of had something in him. Too early to write the book on him. Also, Geno hasn't been good, but that was still the right pick. We were in dire need of a QB and Geno was the highest rated QB by many. I think we destroyed his development (case and point Mark Sanchez doing decent with the Eagles) Nothing has agitated me more than people hating on this draft class. Calvin Pryor was playing out of position all year and still played decently for a rookie defensive back, which is the hardest position to play as a rookie. It looks like we have something in Jace Amaro would could potentially be a Pro Bowl tightend in the future. Dex McDougle got hurt so we can't judge him and same with Shaq Evans. The only bad pick in that draft class was Jalen Saunders. The fact that we still have Trevor Reilley, IK, Dakota Dozier, McDougle, Evans, and others on the team from the draft is huge. Those are late round picks that stuck. Ultimately I thought people expected too much from our 12 draft picks. Remember, Parcells said you lose a game for every rookie you start. It is tough to win with them, its a completely different game than college
Pretty interesting thoughts, however it's Same Old Sanchez in Philly. He's got more confidence and his completion percentage is up thanks to the offensive scheme, but he still makes bad decisions, still can't get it done in the redzone, etc.
he still has 10 TDs and 7 INTs, which is something we could of only dreamed of as jets fans if he threw 20 TDs and 14 INTs we would of shit bricks
I wish we could be like all those other teams in the NFL that never have a player fail to develop as they had hoped and whose every draft pick is a blue chip starter.
I used to be a big rex supporters. I still like him, but its apparent to me he is a big part of the problem. He doesnt seem to hold players accountable, he also has this unnatural ability to play veterans over better players regardless of talent level, and hes too defense defense defense. What about the offense? Not every pick is great, but even our talented picks seem to develop sluggishly. Thats on coaching. Not that idzik deserves a pass Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
I do worry though when Rex does move on that the end of the season and this team continues to suck who are we going to blame for everything at that point? It must be entirely down to him though as this team has enjoyed so much success prior to his arrival....
2010 and 2011, though? He had plenty of great games both those years, and posted decent stats (more TD's than INTS) - he did have a few awful games bringing his total QBR down. He's playing at a slightly higher level than he did on average in his 3rd year right now, but we've NEVER seen him put more than 3 good games together, including this year. He's had some good games, but let's see some consistency before we say he's turned his career around. At this point I would say we've only seen his career evolve from a Trent Dilfer type who needs to be completely carried to a Carson Palmer type who can be OK he if has absolutely every single tool he needs to succeed.
