http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...-limit-christian-hackenberg-article-1.2895002 Anybody catch this article? At first it sounded it encouraging then I got to this part: When asked Thursday how much of a "mystery" Hackenberg still is for the Jets' coaches, offensive coordinator Chan Gailey said, "We don't know yet." ???? Are we really going to go into next year with no idea on the QBs on the roster and what they're capable of? I mean what are we doing??
The sky is blue and grass is green. This team is trash. I didn't even feel this pessimistic when Idzik was in charge. That is saying something.
The article also says he's improving given the scouting reps he's received. It's pretty much a grass is green etc article. Hopefully he's ready to go next season after an off-season of mechanic changes
Throw him to the wolves, full playbook. Sink or swim time. Screw Fitz Bypass Petty. I HATED this pick in round 2, but you know what? What's done is done, now lets see what he has. I'm sick of these kid gloves the Jets treat their QBs with. Last I checked a QB was a football player, they're supposed to be tough both mentally and physically. If he can't handle it look at other options. If he has some success, try and build around him and the Offense this off-season. Re-build the line, draft a WR with our top-10 pick
If you watch the presser he tries to dispell the notion that Hack is a mystery but then uses words that pretty much equate to "well yea we don't really know what he is" The jets are ruining these rookie QB's by not allowing them to get more practice reps. In Hack's case, he should be 2nd string and the backup to Petty.
We all knew he was raw coming in. The kid is redshirting this year. Let him take a year to learn, hell, with 4 QBs in camp he would've barely gotten any reps anyway. Idk if Hackenberg will ever become anything or not, but if someone wanted to ensure he busts and is terrible they'd play him this season. Petty on the other hand? yes, he should be out there. Play Petty, Fitz as the backup, Hackenberg holds the clipboard. Then you see what Petty has down the stretch and around OTAs time see how Hackenberg looks and use both to determine if you need a veteran QB for next season... (i'm guessing they will)
He's getting all of the reps on the scouting team. I would absolutely prefer him to learn with the 1s, but it appears they want to revamp his mechanics before allowing him to take first team reps. He's getting some experience reading defenses, but it's not the full learning you want to see a rookie QB have. They are slowing his development for sure, but hopefully next season it will get accelerated. He's not the same project as Petty. He has a tough road, but not as tough as Petty who has to learn the game completely over again.
The mental aspect of the game for me is a non-issue with hack. He was running the patriots offense and making the same adjustments as Tom Brady as an 18 year old at Penn State under Bill O'Brien. My thing is, they want to revamp his mechanics which will take more focus and practice reps than he's probably seeing on the scout team. I don't think we will see him this season and that's a good and bad thing, but, it's also cool to see them having a plan, rather than cave to public pressure.
Is it really a non issue? Even if he was doing that at Penn State, that was four years ago now, and two terrible college seasons past. It takes quarterbacks years to properly read an NFL defense and even still they don't always get it right. Just because he supposedly could do it for a couple games in division 1 as a freshman doesn't essentially make it a no problem scenario in him doing it as a pro.
This is my point. I'm fine with a rookie sitting for the first year but he's gotta get some reps SOMEWHERE. Not going to develop just watching film and running the PS
[QUOTE="Jedi mind tricks, post: 3524383, member: 16101" Anybody catch this article? At first it sounded it encouraging then I got to this part: When asked Thursday how much of a "mystery" Hackenberg still is for the Jets' coaches, offensive coordinator Chan Gailey said, "We don't know yet." ???? Are we really going to go into next year with no idea on the QBs on the roster and what they're capable of? I mean what are we doing??[/QUOTE] Your ending question is the thing that really makes me discouraged. Sadly, I think the answer is "Yes", they really don't know what they're doing. Well, that may not be entirely true...Bowles knows what HE'S doing: trying to win every meaningless game left to save his job. And if that means screwing the Jets by giving them a worse draft choice, and keeping them from knowing if they even have a decent QB they can count on, too bad. I was willing to give Bowles some slack as he grew into the job, but the slack has been used. If he continues to choose his career over the team's well-being then he needs to go, the sooner the better. After 54 years of waiting, I don't have many more years left to be "patient".
Our staff thinks its wise to stick with the guy who won't be back next year while the season is already lost
I wouldn't call it a non-issue because you can always get better and improve in that aspect. Sometimes Hack can make the wrong read and it can end up in a disaster play. However, Hack has the foundation established and that to me is one of the harder parts of being an NFL QB. Reading the defense and finding the open man. It's good he's not out there right now because they would ruin him. They could've been farther along in his progress if not for Geno and Fitz.
I'm from the school of "Throw him out there and let him learn on the job". I don't believe there's any real substitute for real game action. Most of the HOF QBs learned that way. And the ones who got run out of the game simply proved they didn't have what it takes. Harsh, but true. John Elway took a tremendous beating his first couple of years, but then he learned what to do because he HAD to. This "babying" of QBs is ridiculous. Throw them out there and see what they've got, and if they don't have it, get someone else.