How will Sanchez affect Clemens Mentally?

i still refuse to believe we are throwing this guy into the fire... the stats on junior Qb's not panning out are like 60-40 that the guy busts. This isnt a normal junior either he only played 16 games! he needs to sit and learn for quite some time before we throw him to the wolves!

Stafford started for three years, and the lions dont want him starting right away because they dont think he is experienced enough yet, Sanchez has only 16 starts at USC, if Stafford isnt ready, Sanchez sure as hell isnt.

 

Cassel started 0 games at USC. When you play at USC you are playing and practicing with the best college talent consistently. There is a strict pecking order with USC QB's, you have to wait your turn... it is not because he wasn't good enough that he rode the bench for 2 years. That team has 4 5-star QB's. Sanchez would be the #1 pick in 2010 barring injury if he stayed. We got him a year early, at #5, for less money, and are able to groom him with Rex and Schott for a year and get him acclimated for the NFL game. Instead of as a rookie in 2010, he will be a year ahead of the curve and a budding franchise QB.

 

There's no way to know what the effect will be on Clemens mentality at this point. I compared this to the Brees - Rivers situation in another thread but I realize now that it is not. The crucial difference is that Brees actually got a chance to run the Chargers before they got Rivers and thus he knew he was an NFL caliber QB. Clemens has been impeded by a higher priority player or incumbent every year that he has been in the NFL.

In 2006 he had a healthy Chad in front of him and there was no way that he was winning that competition. In 2007 he won the competition in camp but Mangini gave the job to Chad anyway because Mangini never really allowed a competition that year, he just used Clemens as injury insurance for Chad. In 2008 Favre came in and there was no competition after that point. Now in 2009 Sanchez will be the heavy favorite and Clemens will likely be sitting on the bench again.

So really Clemens has never had the job opportunity he thought he was getting when the Jets drafted him. This is the kind of story where a guy who sticks it out often does very well at his next stop when a new regime just decides to give him a real chance after a calamity has wiped out their starter.

 

This can only be looked at in a negative sense by Clemens. Even though i don't see Sanchez starting this season, Clemens knows Sanchez is the future of this organization and he is not.
The only way Clemens can look at this and take a positive outlook is if he siezes the opportunity he gets this year to showcase his talents and force a trade next season as he will be a RFA.

 

Obviously the jets don't think Clemens can be the man. Unless he's stupid, he has to know that.

If Sanchez is great, who cares how it affects Clemens, if Sanchez isn't great....

 

Stop it.....Sanchez starts game 1 and wont look back for 15 or so years. This guy has franchise all over him.

 

Yeah USC has more talent than the Detroit Lions, we know. However, their last two QB's Leinart and David-Booty havent exactly panned out in the NFL even though they practiced with the same group, in the same offense, with the same staff. Then they get to the pros, and Leinart appears to be a flame out while Booty isnt even in consideration for the #2 job. So forgive me if i don't feel as though that alone has him truly prepared for the NFL. Oh and that previous pick from USC that panned out, just so happens to be CARSON PALMER! the guy who they had sit for a year, and then gave him the reigns and had he not gotten hurt would be a top 4 qb year in and year out in the NFL.

I want to take the same approach with Sanchez. Let him sit and learn, and by the gods don't give him any oppurtunity to catch "David Carr Syndrome".

Oh and Cassel sat in the NFL behind Tom Brady with Bellicheck for what 5 years before he had to walk into one of the most talented offenses in NFL history? He isnt exactly a great example.

 

Seriously? Leinart is behind Warner on a Super Bowl team and should not be written off yet. He has shown good things and potential when he was given a chance. In 1-2 years he can step in for Warner and be a very good QB, still. And Booty was drafted LAST YEAR! You're going to write him off after one year? He was a 5th rounder, and not nearly as good as a pro prospect as Sanchez was, but still a great college QB. Joe Flacco started only 6 games more than Sanchez and that was at DELAWARE. I'd say he was pretty good for a rookie QB last season.

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother...

 

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Who cares about Clemens. He has his shot and it passed. He just another Glen Foley as far as I'm concerned. Sanchez is a franchise QB

 

Who cares how Clemens feels after this. Sanchez is going to beat him out in camp anyway.

 

And I liked Foley a whole lot more than Clemens

I agree with you. Sanchez will win this QB competition and he will be starter day one.

 

It doesn't really matter. Clemens will prob start the season as the starter, but all he's playing for is a possible job with another team. At this point Clemens most value to the Jets is to give Sanchez time, and to maybe get the jets some compensation for him next year.

 

It has probably already been said but just in case it hasn't, Sanchez may have only started 16 games but he played for four years in Carroll's pro type offense...he is MUCH more ready to start in the NFL than Stafford is.

 

We should be good if we just do a legitimate QB competition between Sanchez and Clemens. Its not like we would be throwing him into a situation where he is a big part of our offense.

 

Sanchez was rated the top QB coming out of HS. I'm not saying that it has anything to do with the player he is now, but he isn't some kind of player who is a direct product of a good system. He's a tremendously talented, leader, who was able to thrive due to a combination of his ability and being a part of a collegiate powerhouse.

 

Who cares how Clemens feels?

There's a new sheriff in town.

 

Clemens seems to be mature enough to handle this shit. I'm only basing that on how he handles himself during all the QB "controversy" interviews. But really, even if he can't, it's his own damn fault for sucking it up when he had a shot.

 

I don't believe Clemens will be with the Jets at the beginning of this season. But if he is, unless he somehow has a flawless pre-season, he will most certainly not be the starting QB. He will be unhappily riding the bench. But I personally believe he'll be riding someone else's bench, waiting for his ticket to the Arena league.

 

I agree with you that Sanchez should be sitting to start the season, but never, ever compare him to either Booty or Leinart.

Booty wasn't taken higher coming out of college because everybody knew his limitations as a QB. Leinart, on the other hand...don't get me started. He's been a douchebag fame obsessed pretty boy since his high school days at Mater Dei. He was catered to and secretly hated there, catered to and secretly hated at SC by those who encountered him, and never grew up to enter into the NFL properly. Football is not his #1 priority in the way it should be. Sanchez has more maturity and focus in his little finger than Leinart has in his whole body.